also, I would hazard an opinion that since CCIE pre-dates all the CCNx and
CCDx, that the written was designed for the level that CCDP/CCNP currently
tests.
I have heard on this list that many have thought that a CCDP/CCNP should be
exempt the CCIE written because the knowledge set is so similar.
However, many fail the CCIE written with such lofty initials..........
Kevin Wigle
(haven't failed CCIE written yet..... ('cause I haven't wrote it yet!) )
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Van Oene"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: sharing a Juniper exam experience [7:991]
> In defence of Sean Young (could it be the real one! :) Juniper has taken a
> different approach with it's written exam. Many people will agree that
> there is a certain disparity in difficulty between the CCIE entrance exam
> and it's lab which is likely by design. Juniper has endevoured to create
a
> written test that is relatively similar in difficulty to it's
corresponding
> lab. Hence, one should find Juniper written tougher than Cisco's because
> the two exams had differing design goals.
>
> I should caveat this with the fact that I do work for Juniper although I
> haven't seen our written test (too shook up from CCIE to get the nerve to
go
> down a similar road again :)
>
> Pete
>
>
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>
> On 4/17/2001 at 6:21 PM Henry Rollins wrote:
>
> >C'mon Sean, do yourself some credit, I was sitting next to you and you
> >finished in just under 15 minutes and got a 99%. I would say the
> >Juniper exam is more like a gillion, zillion times more difficult than
> >the CCIE exam. If anyone doubts any of this, you can check with the
> >easterbunny, he was in seat #3, or elvis, in seat #4. I must admit
> >being a bit shocked when John Chambers ran in and put a gold star on
> >Sean's score report and offered to hire him away from his job at
> >Juniper's Marketing Department.
> >
> >All in good fun.
> >
> >Quoting Sean Young :
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I took the Juniper exam yesterday and passed the exam with a score of
> >> 80% (the passing score is 80%). In restropect, I have to say that the
> >> materials are really difficult, the questions are very tricky but fair.
> >> One thing I like about Juniper is that the exam is that even though the
> >> questions are tricky, they are very interesting and challenging. The
> >> exam lasted 90 minutes and I actually used the whole 90 minutes. When I
> >> took the CCIE written 2 months ago, I don't remember the CCIE to be
> >that
> >> difficult. I remembered finishing the CCIE exam in about 30 minutes.
> >> My score on the CCIE written was 95% so I think I got the concept down
> >> very well. However, if anyone think that if you have a easy time with
> >> the CCIE written, you should also have an easy with the Juniper exam,
> >> then you are DEAD wrong (if I am wrong, please correct me on this one).
> >> The juniper exam will make Cisco exam looks like child's play. If you
> >> don't have hand-on experience with Juniper, you will have a very
> >> difficult time with Juniper exam. Attending Juniper training will
> >help
> >> you somewhat for the exam, but it will not totally prepare for the
> >exam.
> >> With Juniper exam, if you don't have BGP, OSPF and MPLS down cold, and
> >> I really mean it, you can just forget about taking the exam. Between
> >> CCIE and Juniper, I would have to say that Juniper is about 5 times
> >more
> >> difficult than CCIE exam because I don't think any of us has that much
> >> experience with traffic engineering. After taking the exam, I really
> >> have an appreciation for Juniper Engineers. They REALLY know their
> >> stuffs. There is just no f***ing at the core. If you are working with
> >> Juniper product, you are at the major league.
> >>
> >> Anyone who did take the Juniper exam or about to and would like to
> >share
> >> your experience, I would like to hear from you.
> >>
> >> Sean
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