Steve - I just put together a "checklist" (motivated by an off-line
conversation with Chuck and by the first meeting with the San Diego Study
Group-"hey dudes! I know you're lurking out there!") from the R/S blueprint
that I'd be willing to share with you and the rest of the list.  Warning:
the checklist is still in evolution, you can use it to your best advantage
and customize it, but I'm using it as both my self-assessment guide (Excel)
and study guide (Word).

(In other words, it still has lots of gaps in it, but I'll be filling those
in as my studying progresses)

-e-

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Skinner" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Written Books - Opinions plz [7:1073]


> or alternativly ,
>
> you could just bend down kiss your ass(and money) good bye and try sitting
> it COLD like me.....(i mean no offence ...i`m just kidding)
>
> but i find that preparing for each exam is different , also they way each
> person does it is different......
>
> ONE thing to remember ALL cisco exams questions come from a pool of about
> 500 ....these are taken from either the offical course notes..or (in the
> case of the CCIE) taken from the blueprint (as correctly pointed out by my
> learnED friend) and also from info FREELY availible from the cisco web
> site........
>
> This is cisco`s MOST prised posession and they WILL NOT give it to you
> without a FIGHT.......so they make it hard.....if they didn`t want it to
be
> as valuable as it is , there would be a cisco CCIE offical course... (not
to
> say all the other cred`s are crap ofcourse.... it is just that this is the
> big one ......TYSON v ALI.....
> and if you want it you are going to have to go out of your way to get it
> ......which i beleive is the right attitiude ....nopoint me getting it
> ...spending 10k.... most of 2 yrs study ...and then it is deemed as
> worthless.....so i will go the extra mile...spend the extra time....and
try
> my damdist??  to get it .........
>
> ASK yourself a question ....what should a CCIE know??????...then ask
> yourself How can i test this ??????......armed with this knowledge and a
LOT
> of help from the group ....you will be fine.....
>
>
> I hope i haven`t annoyed to many people with this ,but it IS as hard as
they
> say ,it IS worth it ,and you WILL have to work harder than ever
> before....BUT it IS possible.........there are people here who`ve proved
it
> possible......see there goal ....focus.......and you....me....all of us
will
> get there.......one day......
>
> this is a self-pep aswell as list-pep talk...because i`m going to fail
> miserably on saturday and will just keep coming back for more.......
>
>
> Cheers
>
> steve
>
>
> >From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> >Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: CCIE Written Books - Opinions plz [7:1073]
> >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:17:06 -0400
> >
> >At the risk of becoming flame bait, let me offer that there are
appropriate
> >tools for appropriate tasks.
> >
> >I am not so sure that Caslow, Perlman, or Halabi are the best way to
spend
> >one's time preparing specifically for the CCIE written. I am not so sure
> >that reading RFC's is the best preparation for the written either.
> >
> >The written is geared towards examination of protocol behaviour. There
are
> >lots of questions that are based on an understanding of how various
> >protocols function. OSI comes into play in that it forms a basis for
> >referencing those operations.
> >
> >I took the written shortly after taking the CID exam. My recollection is
> >that there was more than just a coincidental similarity between the two.
> >
> >My own advice is use the blueprint on CCO as your basis for forming your
> >reading list. But don't get carried away thinking you need to read every
> >book referenced there. Some are more appropriate for lab preparation.
Some
> >are interesting reading, but short on information you will find useful in
> >either the written or the lab.
> >
> >IMNSHO
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> >Dennis Laganiere
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 7:46 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: CCIE Written Books - Opinions plz [7:1073]
> >
> >Your missing websites in your list.  There are a lot of sites that
provide
> >CCIE Written materials, like xx_www.boson.com_xx, www.ccprep.com and
> >others.
> >
> >Just my $.02
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:16 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: CCIE Written Books - Opinions plz [7:1073]
> >
> >
> >Hello group,
> >
> >I would like people's opinion of the following titles for the CCIE
> >'Written'
> >(not lab)
> >
> >CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Cram
> >by Thomas M., II Thomas, Henry Benjamin
> >
> >CCIE: Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert Study Guide
> >by John Swartz, et al
> >
> >All-in-One CCIE Study Guide
> >by Roosevelt Giles
> >
> >CCIE Prep Kit 350-001 Routing and Switching (Exam Guide)
> >
> >CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Prep
> >By Corolios Group
> >
> >I'm already going to add Caslow, Doyle, Halabi, Perlman, Clark(Lan
> >Switching) to my collection.
> >
> >I'm not looking for the ultimate guide, just want to weed out the bad
ones
> >to make a good choice.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Albert
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