Russ- The only information I can give you is that people want to see a college degree no so much for the schooling but more so that you can complete something. Think of a college degree as "a project" emplyoers want to see how long it took you to do that "project" and what other things you were multitasking (job, certs. etc...)while you were working on that project. Did you complete the project? Another line to look at it on is you can go to school for law, medicine, or whatever but to make the profession you have to pass a test. MCAT GMAT etc.. So after all that my advice is ... A College degree by itself will not get you money or status... Certificates by themselves will not get you money or status. Either one or both will get your foot in the door. You have to do the rest. Figure out what is good for you! Good luck --- Circusnuts wrote: > Gotta agree- college is a wonderful thing to have > available to your > children, but I see more & more (not counting > professional degrees) > companies wanting results... not just that degree. > In the late 80's when I > was jockeying college & the Army, it seemed as > though a degree was the > minimum... just to get a ticket to play in the game > of life. My PreMed > without the medical school got me managing (baby > sitting) tire stores for 5 > years. In IT, I've worked with contractors that > range from Yale to Jail. > Seems as though Amway can't be the only one to tout > that statement as their > success group anymore > > The whole experience sure confuses me when I pay my > school loans every month > :o) > Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jason J. Roysdon > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 6:21 PM > Subject: OT: Career/education recommendations after > High School [Re: > [7:1978] > > > > Of course, those that have gone to college value > it more, but I say forget > > college and don't waste 4+ years of your life if > you know what you want to > > do and don't need it. > > > > I've seen a number of pay-scale tables, and here's > an example of what I've > > seen a number of places: 2 years of experience is > worth a 4 year BA/BS > > degree. > > > > Now if you can swing working part-time in your > field, nail some good certs > > along the way, AND do college, I say go for it. > Especially if you're > single > > and unencumbered. > > > > If you can swing it, check out your local > junior/community colleges. Here > > in California they're dirt cheap (a very small > fraction of the cost of > > 4-year schools). The best thing is that if you > get tired of the school > > thing after 2-3 years, you should at least have > your AA/AS, versus all > those > > folks that stop college half-way through and have > nothing to show but > > student loans. > > > > Depending on how you work, most have night classes > to cover most of your > > low-end prereqs so you can work during the day and > do school at night. If > > you can pull "light" work during the day and do > night classes, I'd say > this > > is the way to go (you get the "experience" credits > people looks for, and > the > > degree). > > > > Plus, if you want to do the BA/BS thing, you can > easily transfer after > your > > AA/AS. My brother has done this (he actually took > 3 years to get his AA, > > but took it slow and took a lot of extra classes > that interested him > > (electrical, engineering, compsci), and didn't > count much toward his > > journalism/communication degree). The best thing > of all is that when he > > graduated, he owed nothing, and in fact had saved > up enough money to pay > for > > two years of state college. > > > > > > -- > > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, > Network+, A+ > > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ > > > > > > > > wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > One more thing to add to that Phil..... > > > > > > Russ... at 17, let me make one suggestion to > you... put some money away > > now > > > for your college years! I too had a similar job > to Russ, but I spent my > > > money on stupid things that I thought were > important at 17.... and then > > when > > > the real fun hits you in college, you are > already tapped out! Put in > your > > > time, put some money away and it will all come > around!! > > > > > > Good luck dude! > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For information on our award winning server & > storage products: > > > > Dell Server Site: > http://www.dell.com/products/poweredge/index.htm > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:06 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698] > > > > > > > > > When I was 17 years old (1987), I washed chili > pots @ the local greasy > > spoon > > > for $3 an hour... wondering how I was going to > pay for college. My > senior > > > worked 9 to 4 (I worked 4 to 11, sometimes > 12AM), made $5 an hour, only > > had > > > the cushy lunch crowd to contend with, & left > the tough pots for me. > > > > > > I feel your pain. > > > > > > Pay your dues & change things when you get in a > position to. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Russ Kreigh > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:49 PM > > > Subject: RE: Failed CCDA [7:1698] > > > > > > > > > > I too am only 17 years old and like Priscilla > I think this is a > > > > controversial topic. However, I have a very > strong opinion, therefore > am > > > > going to express it. :-) I currently work for > an local ISP and have > > quite > > > a > > > > bit of Cisco experience along with very much > UNIX (BSDi, Linux, HP-UX, > > > > Solaris), HTML, JavaScript, ASP, PERL, etc > etc. However, I make > > > > significantly less that a new guy that was > hired to work along with > me. > > I > > > am > > > > just as qualified, if not more. Of course, > there are other issues to > > > > consider; I am part-time and he is full time, > I know that makes a > > > > difference, that part I understand. But, I > feel that a large portion > of > > it > > > > has to do with my age, not based on my ability > to perform my job. > > > > > > > > On a Cisco related note, I am going to > schedule my CCDA exam within > the > > > next > > > > month, along with my CCNA. I am very confident > that I will do good on > my > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=2078&t=2078 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
