OK so I'm going thru emails backwards today ;)  Comments inline.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sammi" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:00 AM
Subject: PIX Question [7:2061]


> Hello all,
> I am trying to decide which PIX model to purchase; the 520 or the 515.
> I am bringing in a 256k pipe. The telco is supplying the router, I do

515 can handle 256K of IPSec traffic easily in my opinion.  I didn't see the
pipe bandwidth in the last message.

> not know which model at this point.
> The PIX will need to be licensed for 150 users max, can go much less
> if licensing is based on concurrent sessions.
> I have my quotes but, having no first hand knowledge of the product, I
> am a little mystified by some of the specs and figures. I will
> certainly research, and talk to the sales rep, but would like to get
> some feedback from the experts.
> While there may be cheaper, and easier (though probably less
> effective), firewall options, I am looking at this as both a practical
> and educational purchase.
>
> While the 520 chassis is significantly larger than the 515, I cannot
> discern added hardware or functionality that accounts for the
> differences. More RAM in the 520, but that doesn't account for the
> bulk. Can anyone shed light on this?
> I am also concerned that the 515 must be booted via tftp. I am not
> comfortable with single options, and in fact have never configured
> tftp on either end. Though I imagine it isn't too difficult.

tftp is easy.  ;)

>
> Some particulars:
>
> PIX-515:
>
> PIX-515 Chassis only: $1630.00    (the "only" does not refer to price)
> PIX-515, 8x8NBD Svc, Pix-515 Chassis. Add service for S/W Lic: $900.00
>
> Ok, the above is confusing. Is it simply saying the licensing is $900?

Yep

> The mention of the chassis again is what throws me off. And I
> understand that would be for unlimited users, as that is the only
> licensing mode for the 515?
> But then we have:
> Software license for redundant PIX 515: $326.00
> So, does that mean if I'm purchasing the box for a backup role to an
> existing, I'm getting a deal on the license?

You're getting a deal because the failover is just sitting there idle until
the primary PIX fails.  It's not active licenses.

>
> PIX-520:
>
> PIX 520 Chassis only: $2347.20


> PIX 520 8x5xNBD Svc, PIX Firewall 520 Chassis: $1500.00
>
> Now, notice the two lines above could, on first glance, be mistaken as
> identical to the first two specs for the 515, but they are actually
> telling me different things. I'm not understanding the distinction.

Service contract

> And then I again have the line item  "software license for redundant
> PIX 520".
>
> So, I'm a little confused. Could someone take a moment to shed some
> light on what is being offered, what considerations I should be making
> related to our needs, any general advice?

1)  You need the chassis (515R is cheaper because you can purchase the extra
software to add a 3rd interface.  You have to choose failover or using it as
a DMZ type interface tho).

2)  You need the software license for # users, # interfaces

3)  Service contract optional but recommended.

One final note, check prices on pricewatch.com and cdw.com before you sign
anything with a vendor ;)  You might find a better deal on the same part
#'s.

>
> Oh, and a good book on configuring and working with the PIX box ;-)

Tons of online free docs on cisco.com.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/

>
> Thank you!
>
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