Hi Andy,

Thanks for explanation.  We are currently looking at upgrading the link. I 
am also going to suggest to the customer to change from a bridging 
environment to a routed one.  If the two sites are segmented(enable the use 
of layer 3) it will enable us to implement QOS.

I have one last question for you or anyone in the group.  The math(in your 
reply e-mail), I was not going to ask this question because I think I should 
naturally know this.  I understand the "File size" 2Megabytes is equal to 
(2*8) 16 Megabits.  I do not understand the "Transfer time:", how did you 
arrive to 128 Megabits per second?

I am fuzzy on the transfer time formula. If you or someone may explain or 
point me in the direction where I may learn this, I would be grateful

Thank you,

KM


>From: "andyh" 
>Reply-To: "andyh" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Sending JPEG across an ISDN bridged link brings the network 
>[7:3786]
>Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:06:53 -0400
>
>let's do the maths:
>
>File size: 2MB = 16Mb
>
>Transfer time:  16Mb / 128Mb/s = 125 sec - ie a pretty long lime for those
>used to LAN-type speeds
>
>a better explanation would be to try to empty a bucket through a pinhole in
>the bottom - the point being that the data *will* get through (disregarding
>application timeouts or similar), whereas you're never going to get a lemon
>onto a pop bottle without breaking the bottle or splitting the lemon.
>
>one possible solution would be to implemet some sort of queueing -
>prioritize delay-sensitive traffic (interactive sessions and the like), and
>give large file transfers (ftp, http) a lower priority.  Saying that it
>sounds like you need to get yourself some extra bandwidth - depending upon
>your needs you might wish to look at leased lines.  probably time for you 
>to
>do the maths as to whether you can justify the expense ;-)
>
>Andy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "KM Reynolds"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:34 AM
>Subject: Sending JPEG across an ISDN bridged link brings the network to
>[7:3720]
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Need the groups advice.
> >
> > The network consists of two 1605 routers with 128k ISDN connections in a
> > transparent bridge environment.
> > This network suffers from lockups often,however, not consistently.
> > Yesterday, speaking with a user, he asked me a question. The question 
>was,
> > "Why is it when I send a JPEG file to a user located across the ISDN 
>link,
> > the network come to a halt?".
> > I told him that if the JPEG was very large in size ex. 2MB, when it has 
>to
> > cross the ISDN link, its like trying to squeeze a lemon(a small one) 
>into
>a
> > pop bottle(maybe not a good example, but that is all I could think off).
> > This saturates the ISDN link which is only 128k.
> >
> > Am I correct in my explanation?  What would be a good explanation? I am
>not
> > comfortable with my explanation(maybe I am wrong).  I look forward to
> > hearing the groups thoughts, as well as any solutions(change to routing,
> > QOS, etc.)
> >
> > TIA
> > KM
> >
> >
> > 
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