Jim I see your point, but it don't make sense.
Oh, them big letters was a nice touch.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dixon" 
To: "Donald B Johnson jr" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]


> Don, please
> take your whining to somewhere it will be of use.
> This list is for serious professionals..
> Besides...you probably just forced this thread into
> another weeks worth of posts.
>
> REALLY the DELETE KEY IS YOUR FRIEND man! :)
> SURE go TYPE TH EFRUCKINGMESSAGE just hit cancel afterwards...it's
> theraputic...unless you are at home
> then
> GOTO THE FRIDGE AND HAVE ANOTHER BEER! :) (please)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]
>
>
> Ya know,
> this guy blast everybody for having  an mcse that cant do 1)blahblahblah
and
> 2)yuckyuckyuck. so he is going to get a ccna (yeah there rare) but nobody
> will let him in the: well here is the quote "The problem is that I have
very
> limited exposure
> > to
> > > > routers, switches and all the juicy stuff you need to know to have a
> > solid
> > > > foot in Cisco technology. "
> That just sets me off, people that think that cisco is the only cert and
are
> clueless to the process.
> Most lol-ingly
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "EA Louie"
> To: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]
>
>
> > lol !!!  why not get 3?
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > -e-
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Donald B Johnson jr
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]
> >
> >
> > > do you really think ccna is a good cert i was thinking about maybe
> > sometime
> > > looking into probaly trying to get one or two
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steven Wagner"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 8:13 AM
> > > Subject: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am currently a network administrator and have been for about 2
> years.
> > I
> > > > didn't bother getting my MCSE for two reasons, (1) too many people
> have
> > > them
> > > > and have no idea how to run a network much less set one up and (2) I
> > knew
> > > > that I wanted to eventually work on getting certified in Cisco.  I
> > figured
> > > > that if Cisco was going to be my focus, all the work spent getting
my
> > MCSE
> > > > would prove mostly fruitless.  I realize that having an MCSE is
useful
> > if
> > > > you happen to
> > > > have one, but I don't think that the certification yeilds alot of
> value
> > if
> > > > it requires going out of the way to get it.  I have about
> > > > two years worth of experience in setting up and admining NT 4.0 and
> now
> > > Win
> > > > 2000 servers.  I have a decent knowledge of networking concepts like
> > DNS,
> > > > TCP/IP, and the like.  The problem is that I have very limited
> exposure
> > to
> > > > routers, switches and all the juicy stuff you need to know to have a
> > solid
> > > > foot in Cisco technology.  I am sure that almost everyone starts
where
> I
> > > am
> > > > when they begin to want to work on that coveted CCNA certification.
> So
> > I
> > > > guess my question is this...where do I realistically start to get
> myself
> > > > decent knowledge of the material?  Step by step ideas would be most
> > > > appreciated as I
> > > > want to take this as seriously as I can.  As follow up questions,
what
> > > books
> > > > are best to get to learn?  What hardware should I consider buying to
> get
> > > > started on the studies?  Any help I can get will be invaluable and I
> > thank
> > > > you in advance.  Any opinions on my MCSE evaluation are also
welcome.
> I
> > > do
> > > > not mean to minimize the value of MCSE, I just think that once you
get
> > > your
> > > > CCNA, your MCSE looses alot of its power on your resume.  Thanks for
> the
> > > > forthcoming responses.
> > > >
> > > > Steven Wagner
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