In case you haven't noticed, most CCNA books point out the fact that the IOS uses a "Unix-ish" shell, with command line completion, etc. just like Unix. Some of the low end equipment, like the 700 series and the 1900s allow you to use a web interface, but virtually everything else is command line..... Can you provide facts showing that the IOS *isn't* Unix-ish? Perhaps Cisco is working on a GUI, (don't flame me for this ... it's a joke), they're working on a GUI so all the NT admins can have a chance at becoming Cisco gurus =) Mike W. (former NT admin) "Jason" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Oh, now the IOS is Unixish ?? Phew, so by that token, all Unix experts would > be CCIE... so I guess the number would include all the so call Unix/Linux > "experts" > I don't remember mentioning that the ATM runs NT, most of them actually run > OS2. The extra $$ you save from using open?? source OS would be waste on > support.... > > In case you have not notice, Cisco is working on a GUI.... > > > > ""Kelly Hair"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > "Jason" - > > > > By your logic, Windows NT 3.1 is all you need for your Enterprise to > > succeed. Good luck in that endevour! > > > > In response to your other point, yes, I would trust my ATM server to > Linux. > > The blue screen is pretty but I would prefer to have money instead. Oh.. > > not to mention the extra money I would have from using a an open source OS > > rather than an M$ one... > > > > Perhaps Cisco should throw out the Unixish IOS and replace it with a GUI > so > > everyone could write configs for routers. Sounds like a grand idea... > > > > Regards, > > Kelly > > > > > What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token, > > > therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was based on > > > a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all about > > > ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people > > > working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the hell are > > > people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody using > > > it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Jim Dixon"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > >> THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B > > >> > > >> ABSTRACT > > >> B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L. Thompson, > > >> for primarily non-numeric applications such as system programming. > > >> These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and > > >> processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070 TSS > > >> system, B programs are usually much easier to write and understand > > >> than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is almost > > >> as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially > > >> appropriate use for B. This > > > technical > > >> report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070) version > > >> of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of the > > >> features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan). > > >> > > >> Ken Thompson > > >> The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author of > > >> the B language, the predecessor of C. > > >> > > >> In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes, often > > >> with > > > a > > >> note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first name > > >> (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail address) > > >> in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in > > >> particular) that without > > > a > > >> last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis without > > > last > > >> name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr). > > >> > > >> Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a huge > > >> production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed to > > >> support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three. > > >> > > >> In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up with > > >> Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People said > > >> "well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by one > > >> guy must be Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as well. > > >> > > >> Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to visit > > >> family > > > in > > >> San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system, etc., > > >> and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or was > > >> it > > > "Space > > >> Travel"?). > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? > > >> [7:6675] > > >> > > >> > > >> >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex? Remind them that DOS is UNIX > > >> >subset. The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were dropped > > >> >because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel > > >> >8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was > > >> >available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX > > >> >commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid' somehow. > > >> >But even so it's UNIX! DOS is UNIX! tee-hee. > > >> > > > >> >DOS clowns. > > >> >UNIX dweebs. > > >> >NT geeks. > > >> >Cisco nerds. > > >> >Where's Diane Arbus when we need her? > > >> > > > >> >- susan > > >> > > >> > > >> Get back to the origins of the name UNIX. Pronounced aloud, is there > > >> an English word that comes to mind? > > >> > > >> The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS. UNIX is castrated MULTICS. > > >> > > >> Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one isn't > > >> A). > > > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6896&t=6896 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
