You don't even deserve a rebuttal, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  You won't even
say who you are...... 50,000 workstations my ass.... while you're making up
fake credentials, why not just say it was 100,000 workstations or 1 million.

"Me"  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Guess I have not read any CCNA books recently....
>
> I won't even bother to flame you for the "joke??" . When you find me a
unix
> admin who can plan the deployment of 50,000 workstation and successfully
> roll it out, we can discuss again....
>
> ""Michael L. Williams""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In case you haven't noticed, most CCNA books point out the fact that the
> IOS
> > uses a "Unix-ish" shell, with command line completion, etc. just like
> Unix.
> >
> > Some of the low end equipment, like the 700 series and the 1900s allow
you
> > to use a web interface, but virtually everything else is command
line.....
> >
> > Can you provide facts showing that the IOS *isn't* Unix-ish?  Perhaps
> Cisco
> > is working on a GUI, (don't flame me for this ... it's a joke), they're
> > working on a GUI so all the NT admins can have a chance at becoming
Cisco
> > gurus =)
> >
> > Mike W. (former NT admin)
> >
> > "Jason"  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Oh, now the IOS is Unixish ?? Phew, so by that token, all Unix experts
> > would
> > > be CCIE... so I guess the number would include all the so call
> Unix/Linux
> > > "experts"
> > > I don't remember mentioning that the ATM runs NT, most of them
actually
> > run
> > > OS2. The extra $$ you save from using open?? source OS would be waste
on
> > > support....
> > >
> > > In case you have not notice, Cisco is working on a GUI....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Kelly Hair""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > "Jason" -
> > > >
> > > > By your logic, Windows NT 3.1 is all you need for your Enterprise to
> > > > succeed.  Good luck in that endevour!
> > > >
> > > > In response to your other point, yes, I would trust my ATM server to
> > > Linux.
> > > > The blue screen is pretty but I would prefer to have money instead.
> > Oh..
> > > > not to mention the extra money I would have from using a an open
> source
> > OS
> > > > rather than an M$ one...
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps Cisco should throw out the Unixish IOS and replace it with a
> GUI
> > > so
> > > > everyone could write configs for routers.  Sounds like a grand
idea...
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kelly
> > > >
> > > > > What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same token,
> > > > > therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K was
based
> > on
> > > > > a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix is all
> > about
> > > > > ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still people
> > > > > working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why the
hell
> > are
> > > > > people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is nobody
> > using
> > > > > it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Jim Dixon""  wrote in message
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >> THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ABSTRACT
> > > > >> B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K. L.
> > Thompson,
> > > > >> for primarily non-numeric applications such as system
programming.
> > > > >> These typically involve complex logical decision-making, and
> > > > >> processing of integers, characters, and bit strings. On the H6070
> TSS
> > > > >> system, B programs are usually much easier to write and
understand
> > > > >> than assembly language programs, and object code efficiency is
> almost
> > > > >> as good. Implementation of simple TSS subsystems is an especially
> > > > >> appropriate use for B. This
> > > > > technical
> > > > >> report contains a description of the MH-TSS (Honeywell 6070)
> version
> > > > >> of B (by S. C. Johnson), and a tutorial introduction to most of
the
> > > > >> features of the language (by B. W. Kernighan).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ken Thompson
> > > > >>  The principal inventor of the Unix operating system and author
of
> > > > >> the B language, the predecessor of C.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In the early days Ken used to hand-cut Unix distribution tapes,
> often
> > > > >> with
> > > > > a
> > > > >> note that read "Love, ken". Old-timers still use his first name
> > > > >> (sometimes uncapitalised, because it's a login name and mail
> address)
> > > > >> in third-person reference; it is widely understood (on Usenet in
> > > > >> particular) that without
> > > > > a
> > > > >> last name "Ken" refers only to Ken Thompson. Similarly, Dennis
> > without
> > > > > last
> > > > >> name means Dennis Ritchie (and he is often known as dmr).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ken was first hired to work on the Multics project, which was a
> huge
> > > > >> production with many people working on it. Multics was supposed
to
> > > > >> support hundreds of on-line logins but could barely handle three.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In 1969, when Bell Labs withdrew from the project, Ken got fed up
> > with
> > > > >> Multics and went off to write his own operating system. People
said
> > > > >> "well, if zillions of people wrote Multics, then an OS written by
> one
> > > > >> guy must be Unix!". There was some joking about eunichs as well.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ken's wife Bonnie and son Corey (then 18 months old) went to
visit
> > > > >> family
> > > > > in
> > > > >> San Diego. Ken spent one week each on the kernel, file system,
> etc.,
> > > > >> and finished UNIX in one month along with developing SPACEWAR (or
> was
> > > > >> it
> > > > > "Space
> > > > >> Travel"?).
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:40 PM
> > > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT
guys?
> > > > >> [7:6675]
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >Want to make any UNIX-head apoplex?  Remind them that DOS is
UNIX
> > > > >> >subset. The multi-tasking & multi-threaded functions were
dropped
> > > > >> >because there weren't enough bits in the registers for the Intel
> > > > >> >8088. These were added back in when the hardware for PC's was
> > > > >> >available. However, they did add better mnemonics for the UNIX
> > > > >> >commands so 'ls' became 'dir'. 'Easy' translates to 'stupid'
> > somehow.
> > > > >> >But even so it's UNIX!  DOS is UNIX! tee-hee.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >DOS clowns.
> > > > >> >UNIX dweebs.
> > > > >> >NT geeks.
> > > > >> >Cisco nerds.
> > > > >> >Where's Diane Arbus when we need her?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >- susan
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Get back to the origins of the name UNIX.  Pronounced aloud, is
> there
> > > > >> an English word that comes to mind?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The ancestor of UNIX is MULTICS.  UNIX is castrated MULTICS.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Extra credit for the two predecessors of C. (No, the first one
> isn't
> > > > >> A).
> > > > > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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