Peter,


i know how you feel,...

OK...i accept your responce WAS abit OTT ,and prephaps you could have gone 
abit lighter on the dude......

BUT .....i dont believe that people should go behind your back.....

HELL......we are suppossed to be adults...and i believe that if someone 
thinks you are wrong they should say so  ...TO YOUR FACE AND everyone SHOULD 
be ready to accept what comments are given... i have said thing on the list 
which are wrong ...people have corrected me and people have corrected the 
people who said i was wrong...

include it on the list....... fine ...that way IF and i do mean IF you want 
a second opinion you can get one.....

in the 2 years i have been watching and contributing to this list i have 
seen EVERYONE ...Ahmm not be as polite as one should be in public society

i think of most of these people on this list as my  peers/Seniors

i accept the critisism of my seniors and peers alike.....even if it is with 
their tounges firmly in there cheek....


you accept it......like you do at work .....like you do from your 
friends........rememeber NONE of it is given with MALICE/ARROGANCE....

there is an easyier way for this not to happen to anyone....

always put at the end of the mail (I THINK).....then people say "Ahhh.. i 
believe you are wrong" not "Your a moron for saying that"

but hey.......what do i know????


(did it again ....not claiming fact....just possible facts)


>From: "Peter I. Slow" 
>Reply-To: "Peter I. Slow" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: how to track down unused ports on a switch [7:9213]
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:14:56 -0400
>
>OK. THIS IS OUT OF THE QUESTION.
>I want to let everyone on this list know, that after a post I made to this
>group today,  the second post in this thread, i was pulled aside by my
>manager.
>
>The email, which i appologized for, was directed at luke,  member of
>groupstudy. in it, I jokingly had called him a "brainless peckerhead".
>I appologize if this offended him, im sure he's a nice guy and all, but he
>recomended a solution which would take thirty days to complete,
>
>I AM NOT RECANTING MY APPOLOGY.
>
>..However, my manager printed me an email from someone who fancied himself
>more professional than I.
>
>The email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] said, " I just thought that someone might
>like to see how your engineers are representing your comany publicy", and,
>then stated how easy it was to find my company's webpage, with the
>information contained in my signature file.
>
>Steve Brokaw, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP, had taken it uppon himself to forward the
>email thread to my CEO Ken Mckinnon.
>Steve had titled the email "A rude Planetary Networks employee"
>At that point, copious amounts of sh*t began flowing downhill at supersonic
>speeds. This, I do not think was deserved.
>
>I Post constructively to this group CONSTANTLY, as i have for almost a year
>now.
>I do my best to help you people out.
>I have even put labs together on my own time, with my own equipment, to
>simulate problems and scenarios described by members of this group.
>
>..Now, this email was in NO WAY directed at steve. I have not seen enough
>posts from him on this group to warrant his policing of it.
>
>Steven was kind enough to sign HIS message
>
>Steve Brokaw, MCSE, CCDA, CCNP
>Sr. Network Engineer
>817-233-8075 cell
>
>How nice of him. He took something that should have been addressed to the
>group, and got up close and personal with my CEO.
>"this is how engineers are representing your company"?
>Are you serious? Steve, are you trying to get me fired?
>
>Do you guys who post on this list regularly want to have to worry about 
>crap
>like this?
>Do you want to worry that if you say something that pisses someone off will
>come down on you like a jackhammer from your employer?
>Are we babies? I thought we stopped tattling on each other years ago.
>ESPECIALLY anyone old enough or professional enought to be titled "Sr.
>Network Engineer" but then again, steve was the only contact provided, im
>not going to say anything offensinve, and will stop right here before i get
>in any more trouble.
>
>Im not going to sign any more of my posts.
>
>Of course, you could always go look at my email address and find my
>domainname.
>
>I called Steve today. I asked him why he had done this, his response was
>"you were being a jerk"... And he hung up.
>HOW PROFESSIONAL.
>You wasnt disrespectful? how's being hung up on.
>
>If anyone thinks someone else is at fault, YOU TAKE IT UP WITH THEM. NOT
>MOMMY OR DADDY. This is not kindergarten.
>We are  all engineers, we should all be friends, and work together, we
>shouldnt be getting each other in trouble.
>Steve, at least I realize that i was at fault here, and appologized, but i
>think that you have done is absolutely out of the question.
>What goes around comes around, and i hope that one day, you learn your
>lessons the same way I get to.
>
>Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
>Network Engineer
>
>THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT THE VIEWS OR OPINIONS OF PLANETARY
>NETWORKS, INC, AND ALL COMMUNICATION IN RESPONSE TO THIS EMAIL OUGHT TO BE
>DIRECTED TO THE ORIGINATING PARTY.
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