I, too, lost my full time gig last week and I am finding it very hard to
find another position for similar pay.  It seems as though this round of
layoffs is like the one in the 80's.  They are laying off and then hiring
later for a lot less pay.

Anyone else see this?

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
877.418.4025
http://www.kg2.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Medeiros" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]


> Geeze,
> I have only been without a job 2 weeks and I have been doing independent
> contract work like crazy during that time.  It takes time to interview for
> jobs, especially in my pay range.  Company's don't just look at your
number
> and hire you on the spot,  At least not any company I want to work for.
>
> To answer Elmers question: Yes, the market is very different now.
> Especially in the VAR area.  Small VARs are struggling to make 2 or 3
points
> on hardware sales.  "Grey" market hardware from auctions and bankruptcies
is
> everywhere.  Large resellers like ATT and SBC (sorry Chuck) are drop
> shipping at cost, it seems, just to make a little margin on deployment.
>
> Another factor that seems to be affecting CCIE employment around the bay
> area is the layoff at Cisco.  Believe it or not, Cisco laid off quit a few
> of them recently, and they are all looking for jobs.  I recently
interviewed
> at a job where they specifically want a CCIE and they had 10 interviews...
> 10 !!!!  That was unheard of a year ago!!   Maybe it's just like this in
the
> Silicon Valley, I don't know.  All I know is the market is very soft right
> now around here.  I know I'll find a job though.  I just can't be picky.
>
> So is the CCIE market saturated ?  I don't know, maybe.  Does the high
tech
> economy suck right now ?  Hell yes !!  However, ebb and flow is the way
> capitalism works.  Things are certain to get better.
>
> So you who are going for your high end certs, keep studying !!  You will
be
> in a better position when things get better.
>
> Tony M.
> #6172
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Circusnuts
> To:
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:13 AM
> Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
>
>
> > Uh Ohhh- let's not start a rant here... "CCIE's out of work, is it worth
> > it."
> >
> > :o)
> > Phil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Elmer Deloso"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:24 AM
> > Subject: RE: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> >
> >
> > > Tony,
> > > Seriously speaking, i thought at this point you'd be the hunted and
not
> > the
> > > hunter when it comes to jobs. Or has teh CCIE market become
"saturated"?
> > >
> > > Elmer
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tony Medeiros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:30 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> > >
> > >
> > > Boy,
> > > That CCIE verification tool is buggy.  I put my name in 4 times before
> It
> > > verified me.  Tried different capitalization methods untill it
finially
> > > worked.  Then it worked on all capitalization methods !!!  Go figure
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a job right now and I hope that a prospective
employeer
> > > doesn't use this thing !!
> > >
> > > Tony Medeiros
> > > CCIE #6172 (damnit !!!!)
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