In a message dated 7/6/01 10:16:35 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Geeze,
 > I have only been without a job 2 weeks and I have been doing independent
 > contract work like crazy during that time.  It takes time to interview for
 > jobs, especially in my pay range.  Company's don't just look at your
 number
 > and hire you on the spot,  At least not any company I want to work for.
 >
 > To answer Elmers question: Yes, the market is very different now.
 > Especially in the VAR area.  Small VARs are struggling to make 2 or 3
 points
 > on hardware sales.  "Grey" market hardware from auctions and bankruptcies
 is
 > everywhere.  Large resellers like ATT and SBC (sorry Chuck) are drop
 > shipping at cost, it seems, just to make a little margin on deployment.
 >
 > Another factor that seems to be affecting CCIE employment around the bay
 > area is the layoff at Cisco.  Believe it or not, Cisco laid off quit a few
 > of them recently, and they are all looking for jobs.  I recently
 interviewed
 > at a job where they specifically want a CCIE and they had 10 interviews...
 > 10 !!!!  That was unheard of a year ago!!   Maybe it's just like this in
 the
 > Silicon Valley, I don't know.  All I know is the market is very soft right
 > now around here.  I know I'll find a job though.  I just can't be picky.
 >
 > So is the CCIE market saturated ?  I don't know, maybe.  Does the high
 tech
 > economy suck right now ?  Hell yes !!  However, ebb and flow is the way
 > capitalism works.  Things are certain to get better.
 >
 > So you who are going for your high end certs, keep studying !!  You will
 be
 > in a better position when things get better.
 >
 > Tony M.
 > #6172
 >
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: Circusnuts
 > To:
 > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:13 AM
 > Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
 >
 >
 > > Uh Ohhh- let's not start a rant here... "CCIE's out of work, is it worth
 > > it."
 > >
 > > :o)
 > > Phil
 > >
 > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > From: "Elmer Deloso"
 > > To:
 > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:24 AM
 > > Subject: RE: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
 > >
 > >
 > > > Tony,
 > > > Seriously speaking, i thought at this point you'd be the hunted and
 not
 > > the
 > > > hunter when it comes to jobs. Or has teh CCIE market become
 "saturated"?
 > > >
 > > > Elmer
 > > >
 > > > -----Original Message-----
 > > > From: Tony Medeiros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 > > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:30 AM
 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > > > Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Boy,
 > > > That CCIE verification tool is buggy.  I put my name in 4 times before
 > It
 > > > verified me.  Tried different capitalization methods untill it
 finially
 > > > worked.  Then it worked on all capitalization methods !!!  Go figure
 > > >
 > > > I'm looking for a job right now and I hope that a prospective
 employeer
 > > > doesn't use this thing !!
 > > >
 > > > Tony Medeiros
 > > > CCIE #6172 (damnit !!!!)




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