Amen to that, I talked to a recruter friend that does nothing but place CCIE's nation wide. He has over 100 out of work CCIE's he is looking to place. This is really depressing !!! I guess we will all need to start thinking about cuts in pay. Especially if Cisco lowers the bar on the test. Yeah, there are only 5K active or so CCIE's in the world. But, There are a lot more super smart engineers that don't have the certification and don't need it really. These people that have been in the industry a lot longer than me are getting the meager jobs out there right now. And so they should !!! Experience is KING !! Certifications are nice, but what the employeers that I have interviewed with lately really what is mega experience. Something I don't have yet. The CCIE is most valuable in the VAR arena. And that industry is in the toliet right now. I just hope that Cisco isn't just doing the 1 day test thing for revenue purposes. The lab test has always been a profit center for them. A one day test is an easy way to double that revenue for them. I feel for the people that have to wait for 8 months or more for a lab date. I know what constant preparation, sacrifice, and stress you have to go through. I just hope that the people working so hard for their CCIE will have a certification that still means something. Sorry everybody, just venting out load. I am finally getting some real job offers after a month of interviewing and doing consulting work. Tony M. #6172 ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Macaulay To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:21 PM Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > Chuck --- > Do you really think the CCIE is finished?? I hope you are wrong! We've all > invested so many hundreds of hours of blood, sweat, tears and Money to get > to this point!! I read Cisco's explanation today -- and hopefully their new > lab will simply economize on time -- not on expertise. Say a prayer! > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Chuck Larrieu > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > I'm willing to part with my December 3 date for a nominal fee. > > Chuck > betting that once the one day lab takes effect, the value of the CCIE will > plummet ;-> > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > EA Louie > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Neiberger > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > > I just scheduled the lab today and the earliest date available was > > 3/8/2002. But I took that spot. :-) > > not true, the earliest date was today ;-) then one on 8/7 and another on > 8/17 (heheheheh) > > > > > John > > > > >>> "Jaspreet Bhatia" 7/17/01 2:40:18 PM >>> > > Guys, > > Does anyone know what is the current wait time for the > > R/S > > lab in San Jose . > > > > Jaspreet > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12749&t=12749 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]