Fine but the obvious one is Nortel, but look how many they have fired, Ericsson the same and I've had experience of their Tigress and Congo/Danube etc range. Bad support for a poor product. Extreme are in trouble, Juniper and Foundry very small. 3Com basically out of it and I think must have seen it coming. I am of the opinion you really have to get a wide spread of experience and certifications. Microsoft have come a cropper because the MCSE 2000 is too hard for most established MCSE's and they are failing the exams especially Design. It looks like they will introduce a mid-way type of MCSE that does not have to bother with Design Issues. Much of those bear a striking relationship to CCDA/CCDP. In addition there is talk of a Microsoft/Cisco link with W2K, XP, and IOS having a special links and interactions sets. Food for thought. Novell seems to be losing market ground and therefore the CNA/CNE looks less of a good bet. Security is a good area Checkpoint (53% market share) CCSA/CCSE 2000 looks good and would mix well with knowledge of PIX etc. I think its time to be creative and look elsewhere than just Cisco. Keep em on the back burner still do the studies they will be back but not next week! I know I've had to jump ship a bit and I'm now having to learn HTML as well.....whatever next! Anyone need the car washing? Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:33 PM Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12861] > Its my believe that by being a CISCO person, it does not > UN-qualify any one of us to work with other vendor > equipment. What we now need to do is learn the other > companies products so we have the edge on the situation. > > With some minor tweaks we should be able to support > other equipment. > > This applies to all pc environments. The basics are the > same, the rules - different order. > > The market conditions are really depressing right now but that does not > mean > > that people > > give up their dreams and stop working towards them . If you look at all > the > > certifications like CNE and MCSE they all had their better days and anyone > > who had them > > was king but not anymore .That is the certification market for you . Every > > certification has a life and it is upto the Company to give its > > certification a longer > > life by making it more and more difficult and I guess Cisco has done a > > commendable job > > on that for the past 8 years but I think what cisco needs right now is more > > people using > > thier products out their in the market so that they don't get crushed by > the > > competition > > . So with that said , teh CCIE might still be able to get you in a lot of > > positions and > > then its upto you . Just my 2 cents > > > > Jaspreet > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > At 10:31 PM 7/17/01, KY wrote: > > > > > > >Here is what I came across from Mentortech's web site on the > experience > > of > > > >a receiptionist they are looking for: > > > >"Education & Experience: > > > >At least one year previous experience as a receptionist, with multi-line > > > >phone system." > > > > > > > >What kind of phone system needs someone to get to level of being able to > > use > > > >it a year later? > > > > > > It's VoIP. Just kidding. ;-) > > > > > > >A 12 year old can learn how to use any phone system in the world in less > > > >than 20mins. > > > > > > > >I guess in mentortech, they are looking for the Queen of experience. > > > > > > Or King. In the U.S. it is illegal to specify the sex of the job > candidate > > > you are seeking. > > > > > > >I know the reality is every employer is looking for experienced people, > > but > > > >it does not mean it is not rediculous, at least in my eyes. The first > one > > > >implented MPLS on their proudction network had to use "inexperienced" > > > >engineers doing it, I am pretty sure about that. > > > > > > > >Just my .02. > > > > > > > >KY > > > ________________________ > > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > > http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12867&t=12867 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
