I have had the same problems with Cabletron/Enterasys SSR equipment. Its seems that some companies put money into QA and some rely on old customers to do it for them Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: hal9001 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 19 July 2001 12:39 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab > [7:12933] > > They have retracted and pulled back from many areas they were to develop > and > promised developments were not delivered. I worked for one of their > resellers, what we were promised one minute was not delivered the next. > > Support fell like a stone as did staff their end, we could not give away > their kit and there was a flight to quality i.e. Cisco/Nortel. In > addition > their power supplies were suspect and we were forever returning their > S24's > and S48's, if it was not for that then it was their ASICS and Ports > packing > up. Once one went others soon followed. > > We had software problems with Black Diamond Blades and you had to be very > careful what blades and software you mixed which was never made to clear > until it all went wrong. Put two of those beasts in a room and it sounded > like a fully loaded B29 on takeoff. Quality control was not that good. > If > you have got Extreme (unless you are a reseller) you will never be > unemployed, you will always be replacing them and having to tweak them. > Best of British mate............Oh by the way dI hope you are not using > ESRP.......you'll have lots of fun with that watching the kit go up and > down > and take other vendors/peoples kit out! > > Karl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab > [7:12931] > > > > How do you figure Extreme is in trouble? Monday's WSJ had an article > about > > the tech stocks slump and Extreme, Foundry, as well as a few others were > > noted as part of the 15% that was generally considered to have "turned > the > > corner" and shown improvement. > > > > Just curious, I hadn't heard anything about them being in trouble, on > top > > of that we just bought a boatload of their switches (which do seem so > far > > to work very well by the way)... > > > > I need my car washed! :) Do you need any fries (chips) with that? > > > > > > > > > > > "hal9001" > > > > cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: CCIE market > FLOOD > > !! was: Current Wait time on the > > nobody@groups lab > > [7:12867] > > > > tudy.com > > > > > > > > 07/18/2001 > > 04:06 > > PM > > > > Please > > respond > > to > > > > "hal9001" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine but the obvious one is Nortel, but look how many they have fired, > > Ericsson the same and I've had experience of their Tigress and > Congo/Danube > > etc range. Bad support for a poor product. Extreme are in trouble, > > Juniper > > and Foundry very small. 3Com basically out of it and I think must have > > seen > > it coming. I am of the opinion you really have to get a wide spread of > > experience and certifications. > > > > > > > > Anyone need the car washing? > > > > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:33 PM > > Subject: Re: CCIE market FLOOD !! was: Current Wait time on the lab > > [7:12861] > > > > > > > Its my believe that by being a CISCO person, it does not > > > UN-qualify any one of us to work with other vendor > > > equipment. What we now need to do is learn the other > > > companies products so we have the edge on the situation. > > > > > > With some minor tweaks we should be able to support > > > other equipment. > > > > > > This applies to all pc environments. The basics are the > > > same, the rules - different order. > > > > The market conditions are really depressing right now but that does > not > > > mean > > > > that people > > > > give up their dreams and stop working towards them . If you look at > > all > > > the > > > > certifications like CNE and MCSE they all had their better days and > > anyone > > > > who had them > > > > was king but not anymore .That is the certification market for you > . > > Every > > > > certification has a life and it is upto the Company to give its > > > > certification a longer > > > > life by making it more and more difficult and I guess Cisco has done > a > > > > commendable job > > > > on that for the past 8 years but I think what cisco needs right now > is > > more > > > > people using > > > > thier products out their in the market so that they don't get > crushed > > by > > > the > > > > competition > > > > . So with that said , teh CCIE might still be able to get you in a > lot > > of > > > > positions and > > > > then its upto you . Just my 2 cents > > > > > > > > Jaspreet > > > > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > > > > > At 10:31 PM 7/17/01, KY wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Here is what I came across from Mentortech's web site on the > > > experience > > > > of > > > > > >a receiptionist they are looking for: > > > > > >"Education & Experience: > > > > > >At least one year previous experience as a receptionist, with > > multi-line > > > > > >phone system." > > > > > > > > > > > >What kind of phone system needs someone to get to level of being > > able > > to > > > > use > > > > > >it a year later? > > > > > > > > > > It's VoIP. Just kidding. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > >A 12 year old can learn how to use any phone system in the world > in > > less > > > > > >than 20mins. > > > > > > > > > > > >I guess in mentortech, they are looking for the Queen of > experience. > > > > > > > > > > Or King. In the U.S. it is illegal to specify the sex of the job > > > candidate > > > > > you are seeking. > > > > > > > > > > >I know the reality is every employer is looking for experienced > > people, > > > > but > > > > > >it does not mean it is not rediculous, at least in my eyes. The > > first > > > one > > > > > >implented MPLS on their proudction network had to use > > "inexperienced" > > > > > >engineers doing it, I am pretty sure about that. > > > > > > > > > > > >Just my .02. > > > > > > > > > > > >KY > > > > > ________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > > > > http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12934&t=12934 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
