Actually, I should have made the point that I don't particularly trust the
figures - as Fred says, there's no source given.  But the ratio of CCIEs to
CCDPs doesn't surprise me.  I also know people who did the CCDP shortly
after the CCNP, but that seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon - earlier,
most people on this list seemed to be aiming at CCNP then CCIE, and
ignoring the CCDP.

And as far as research papers without sources - haven't you come across the
belief held by some (hopefully not many on this list) that 'I read it on
the net so it must be true'?  ;-)
A modernisation of 'The newspaper said so - it must be true'!

JMcL
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"Ole Drews Jensen" @groupstudy.com on 25/07/2001
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Actually, the CCDP is 2 tests away from the CCNP (CCDA and CID).

     :-)

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
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I know of many people, including myself, who first pursued the CCNP and
soon

after got the CCDP. After getting the CCNP, the CCDP is only one test away,
so it makes sense to put that extra couple of study weeks in for another
certification.

I also have a hard time believing a set of statistics that has no source.
Do

you think people write research papers without citing their sources?? Who
would believe them??

Fred


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>Think about how long the CCIE has been available.
>Think about how long the CCDP has been available.
>Think about how many people on this list concentrate on getting their
CCNP,
>compared to how many are concentrating on the CCDP.
>Still find it hard to believe?
>I expect the proportion will increase over time.
>
>JMcL
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>"Fred Danson" @groupstudy.com on 24/07/2001
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>I find it very hard to believe that, in the United States, there are only
>1.4826 CCDPs for every CCIE. I would imagine that there would be atleast
10
>CCDPs per CCIE.
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> >From: "Christopher Supino"
> >Reply-To: "Christopher Supino"
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> >Interesting. What is the source of this info?
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> >FYI.  Breakdown by certification through May 2001
> >
> >              US/CAN     EMEA     Asia/Pac     Americas     Japan
> >CCIE     2,876          1,940      755             135              267
> >CCNA    87,724        26,694    34,231         1,972          23,689
> >CCNP    20,778        9,633      9,244           407            23,689
> >CCDA    14,825        6,580      3,705           652            1,038
> >CCDP    4,264          3,911      1,449           94              245
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> >cheekin
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