I think mine may take a little longer to boot up, especially on Mondays -----Original Message----- From: Wilson, Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15314] Are you allowed to take a subnet calculator into *any* certification test? If your network is crashing and (for some reason) you need to do some quick binary math to solve the problem, do you really have time to wait to run back to your desk and launch (or perhaps even download first) a subnet calculator program? Will subnet calculators know enough to ask the questions that you don't know to ask regarding a given situation? In my opinion, the only calculator one should depend on for everyday binary math problems in networking should be the one located between one's ears. With a little bit of practice, it's dependable, reliable, and takes an amazingly short time to boot up. ;-) BJ -----Original Message----- From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306] This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some education. I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using a program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the network or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually? It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source of error. As Cisco even says; "The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal numbers." So what is it I am not understanding? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15329&t=15329 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]