Hey Ole, we use all 1720s at the lower end clients. The VPN features are
only there if the right IOS is there. The 2600 should be fine. Look at
your routing protocol, if you are using OSPF or something like that, you
may want and probably will have to bump up the ram DRAM in the 1720 to
handle it as well as the 1600.

IMHO, put at least 50% cir on each line. A lot of carries will tell you
if its local it does not matter but real life will tell you that is
crap.

Good Luck,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Design Help [7:15907]


I would appreciate some good advice on this from some of you design boys
and
girls out there.

I am going to upgrade some of our branch offices from ISDN and DSL to
Frame
Relay, and I need to find the best suited devices to do that.

I want to move away from the (now) slow ISDN and unreliable
(unfortunately)
DSL.

I have been browsing on Cisco's web site, and looking through my Cisco
Product Quick Reference Guide, but I am not 100% sure I have made the
right
selections yet.

I would like to start out connecting my main office with four of our
branch
offices - each with a 256 kbps bandwidth as a starter. My thoughts have
been
as follows:

Main Office:

 o  Cisco 2610 with a WIC-1DSU-T1=

Branch Offices:

 o  Cisco 1604 with a WIC-1DSU-T1=

or

 o  Cisco 1720 with a WIC-1DSU-T1=

I am not sure if I should go with the 1604 or 1720.

The 1604 has ISDN-U which I could use as a backup connection in case the
Frame Relay goes down. The reason that I have not selected the 1601 with
an
option for a ISDN-U WIC later on, is that the T1 doesn't have a build-in
CSU/DSU (why don't they have a 1600 with a fixed T1 with CSU/DCU?).

The 1720 is less expensive than the 1604, and I could then add the ISDN
U
WIC later on if I decide that it is necessary. However, the 1700 is a
VPN
router, and I don't need that, since it goes directly from one router to
another through the Frame Relay. I assume that this feature can be
disabled.

So, back to my question - what would you buy?

Thanks for comments on this,

Ole

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