Never Hire a Certification, Hire a person. A Certification is a measure of a person's ability to achieve a standard of intellectual knowledge and rate themselves among their peers in the industry. CCIE's are people and like people their personal work habits, level of on the job proficiency, ability to design networks, and ability to troubleshoot problems will vary significantly. Networking is a very vast field and continues to expand everyday. Just because a person passes the bar does not make them a real estate lawyer. After the bar exam then an attorney will then specialize in one area of law. It is impossible for a newly passed CCIE to know everything about networking. In fact probably 50% or more of the material learned for the CCIE exam will never be used by a CCIE again. Why? Because networking is constantly changing. Five years from now the CCIE exam will probably have many new protocols that are not even invented yet and a lot of the current protocols will have dropped off of the exam scope. A truly successful CCIE, Networking Engineer, is one that continues to study and excel in their own area of networking while keeping sharp the basic underlying skills of networking. I believe the CCIE certification is a personal goal to see if I can measure up to my peers in the Industry. I also believe that it is a good thing to have on a resume to catch the interest of a company to get an interview. It is NOT a guaranteed ticket for success. Once you get the interview and the job a CCIE must then rely on their own talent, knowledge, and experience to win the job and guarantee a high salary. Buddy Jenkins Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19202&t=19202 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]