No.  Like I said, the problem is getting the right ISA flash card.  I don't
remember the exact model I tried, but I could not get it to work.  The PIX
bios is apparently coded to try a load itself from a particular memory
address on the flash card.  If the card you get does not support loading
from that memory address it won't work.  The easiest way around this would
be to get the card from Cisco, but last I checked they were very expensive
compared to generic cards.

The poster I was replying to seemed to be saying they found a Cisco flash
card for $100 and I was inquiring where they got it from.

My opinion on this thread is the OP should post their instructions complete
with the make and model of the ISA flash card they used.  

The only other information that would be useful is if someone knows a place
selling _Cisco_ ISA flash cards for $100, or if someone has an ISA flash
card that they know for a fact is the same as the one Cisco sells or that
they know for a fact allows you to build a PIX.  

-Kent
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Kreigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 7:18 AM
To: Hundley, Kent; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: how to build a pix firewall out of a PC box. [7:18335]


http://calibri.net/isa-doc.jpg  Like one of these???

BTW has anyone gotten instructinos yet??? I am STILL waiting.....


-Russ



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Hundley, Kent
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 1:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: how to build a pix firewall out of a PC box. [7:18335]


Where did you get a quote for $100?  The prices I have been quoted for the
16MB ISA flash card from Cisco were considerably more than that.  I don't
remember exactly what the price was but it was somewhere around $700-$800 if
memory serves.

-Kent

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: how to build a pix firewall out of a PC box. [7:18335]


well the flash card is only $100 dls, that pretty cheap versus  going and
buying a
pix

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kent Hundley
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: how to build a pix firewall out of a PC box. [7:18335]


I have tried building the PIX from a PC in the past and the sticking point
is getting the correct ISA flash card.  Unless there is some magic you know
of, the card has to support booting from certain memory addresses or it
won't work. (or at least it didn't when I tried)  The PIX actually loads its
bios from the flash card, so without the correct flash card you won't get
far.

If you got your flash from a friend, did they get it from a PIX?  If so,
this is obviously "cheating" since the point of trying to build a PIX is
that you don't have one to get the flash card from in the first place. If
not, where did they get it and what is the manufacturer and model?

Regards,
Kent

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Sean Young
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 7:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: how to build a pix firewall out of a PC box. [7:18335]


OK, I have been getting 256 emails for the past few days regarding how to
build a PIX out of an old PC.  Now for thos, who have all the spare
parts, you just have to wait a tad longer until everyone in the group get
their parts so that we can build the PIX together at once.

Regarding the flash card, this is rather an old technology before the
PCMCIA card the old machine use to store program instead of the
hard-drive or other means.  The flash card I am talking about is the one
that looks like an old ISA video card that gets inserted into the ISA
slot on the motherboard.  Because PIX doesn't use hard-drive, this flash
card is where the PIX IOS code resides.  I don't know where to purchase
it.  I got this card from a friend of mine.

Another thing, as I've mentioned before, the NICs have to be Intel
Etherexpress model 82577 (one of those weird shape looking card) or the
PIX will not work.  Now these cards you can get on Ebay very cheaply.

Regards,

Mike Johnson [CCNP Security Specialist]

>From: "Paul Jin" >Reply-To: "Paul Jin" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: how to build a pix firewall out of a PC box. [7:18335]
>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:06:45 -0400 > >Hey Mike, > >I am definitely
interested. > >I am assuming than we can do this with almost any spare
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