Shall we move on?
Symon
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Allen May
Sent: 12 September 2001 21:06
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
OK that was taken offline but you insist on pursuing this. Being a Jew is
the same as being an American, German, etc. It indicates where his national
origin, not his religious belief or lack thereof. I did not say he was
Jewish (indicating faith).
My last post. I stated my opinion and you stated yours against mine with
uneducated remarks. Leave it be. Thousands died in a tragedy and people
who blame it on religion when there is no proof behind it were adding insult
to injury (as stated earlier by another). This was not an act of someone
working for their belief in God when it involved killing thousands of
innocents.
I stand behind my country, my president, and my God, but do not condone acts
like this in any way. I was simply stating that wars are not always based
on religion, but rather by personal gain by governments. It has nothing to
do with God most of the time. Let those who believe have their say. It's
part of the healing that must take place.
May God be with ALL of us, even those who refuse to believe and look for
someone to blame it on besides mankinds faults. God did not create
religion...remember that when thinking God is the reason for these things.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wilson, Bradley"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> I thought you said earlier he was an atheist. Which is it?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: Wilson, Bradley
> Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
> Hitler was a Jew.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wilson, Bradley"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:42 AM
> Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
> > Hitler was Catholic, and claims in "Mein Kampf" that "my conduct is in
> > accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> >
> > Waaaaaaaay off topic, but since the atheists got their say:
> >
> > Unbelievable the responses that came from this post. I agree. Amazing
> how
> > many said not to push religion by pushing atheism right after you
> mentioned
> > this. In a Christian society is is usually the atheists or Satanic
cults
> > that commit the most horrible crimes, not the Christians. (Timothy
> McVaugh,
> > Hitler, most mass murderers of history, etc). It goes against
everything
> > Christians believe in to do such a thing. And, I believe the Holy War
is
> > about the only one I can think of in the name of their God. All others
> were
> > over oil, land, expanding an empire, etc. Saying "May God be with us"
> > during war doesn't make it for God. It's a plea by the soldiers forced
> into
> > the conflict by government to save their souls when they are pushed into
> > commiting acts of murder for their country/government. Christians have
> > always had to fight for their right to practice due to others pushing
> their
> > beliefs on them & trying to take their freedom of religion away. All
the
> > while, saying it's bad to push beliefs...hmmm.
> >
> > My thoughts and prayers go out to those affected. Clearly most of the
> world
> > realizes this was an unspeakable act. When terrorist leaders condemn
the
> > act, it's bad.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Puckett, Larry (TIFPC)"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:27 PM
> > Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> >
> > > Funny how it's always "Pushing religion is unacceptable" but never '
> > Pushing
> > > atheism is unacceptable' .....
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:15 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> > >
> > > pushing religion is pushing the limits of acceptable OT converstaion
> IMHO
> > >
> > > My deepest sympathy to those affected by this series of atrocities. A
> few
> > > weeks ago, a car bomb went off just up the road from my place (West
> > London),
> > > and I thought that was a wake up call.... the scale of this disaster
is
> > just
> > > incomprehensible.
> > >
> > > Symon
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Craig Richardson
> > > Sent: 11 September 2001 21:08
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
> > >
> > >
> > > I know this is off-topic and long, but I'll give it a shot anyway...
> > >
> > > Hello all, and much respect to everyone on this list.
> > > This is my first time writing to this list (as far as I can remember),
> > > although
> > > I have observed it for awhile. Most topics seem to be out of my Cisco
> > > range,
> > > but I do enjoy the information that crosses the list and I do respect
> > > everyone's
> > > opinion as their own. Terrible tragedies have been suffered today,
and
> > many
> > > lives are now changed forever. As Priscilla mentioned, the damage to
> > > families
> > > is irreparable. However, to think that "if God existed, this
incredible
> > > loss of life
> > > wouldn't have occurred in the first place", is to say that that the
> devil
> > > does not
> > > exist. God is very real and He does exist. Unfortunately, the devil
is
> > > very real also,
> > > and he does exist. Many people think that the devil is a mythical
> figure
> > > that has
> > > nothing to do with current events, so they equate God with all of the
> good
> > > and the bad
> > > things. The fact is, that God does love us all, and it is not his
> desire
> > > that anyone of us
> > > should perish, but we all have an enemy, and that is the devil. Every
> > > opportunity he gets,
> > > he seeks to devour. God works through his people and He is patient.
> > > Tragedies do
> > > occur, but the blame should go to the devil, not God. When we pray,
our
> > > prayers do make
> > > a difference as God hears our prayers. The "we" that I'm talking
about
> is
> > > those that believe
> > > on His son, Jesus Christ. There is a spiritual war going on that must
> not
> > > be overlooked.
> > > Todays events are part of this war. The bible says it all. These are
> the
> > > "end times" that we
> > > are in. It is my hope that these tragedies will lead the rest of us
to
> > > realize that we do need a
> > > saviour, and He is Jesus Christ. Please check Romans 14:10,
> 12/Ephesians
> > > 2:8,9/
> > > Romans 3:23/Romans 6:23/ and Romans 10:9,10. Also, the book of
> > Revelations
> > > tells much
> > > about the end times (which we've been in for quite some time).
Prayer,
> > > along with using all
> > > available opportunities to help (like donating blood), goes a long
way.
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Craig.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: B.J. Wilson
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this
> > incredible
> > > > loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place. Part of
> > > rebuilding
> > > > our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth
discussing.
> > As
> > > > far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've
> made
> > > sure
> > > > my two friends who live in NYC are okay. What are you doing besides
> > > > praying?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Juan Blanco"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are
> thinking
> > > > > about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
> > > > > families.....they should be thinking about a prayer to God in
order
> to
> > > > save
> > > > > as many peoples as posible....
> > > > >
> > > > > My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack....
> > > > >
> > > > > God bless america..........
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> > > > >
> > > > > We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
> > > > > families
> > > > > (if that can even be done??)
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla
> > > > >
> > > > > At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> > > > > >since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there
are
> a
> > > > > number
> > > > > >of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom
> have
> > > > > >probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy
in
> > > > > terms of
> > > > > >investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get
> > things
> > > > > >straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into
> > planning,
> > > > > into
> > > > > >corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
> > > > > eventually
> > > > > >mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I
were
> a
> > > > > >survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
> > > > > scratch, I
> > > > > >would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say
> that
> > > > > >sarcastically.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an
economy
> as
> > > > > weak
> > > > > >as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work
in
> > > > > that
> > > > > >area are ok.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Chuck
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf
> > Of
> > > > > >sparkest pig
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department
> of
> > > > > >Defense funding go up? would this be good to us, the Cisco
geeks?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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