This company was the original CBT Systems, and somehow
Ended up with a deal with FORE (not the one that is now
Marconi). But their tactics in selling these "Official" 
Training materials are VERY aggressive that you'd have 
Better chances of getting a super deal from a used-car
Lot. Total waste of your money, efforts, and time.
Elmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Faulk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Amen to that.
My company bought the MCSE program and it was not only marginal it was dull.
For the money they are charging you could outfit a good CCNP lab and several
first rate training aids.

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Donald B Johnson jr
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:21 PM
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Don't do it jenn


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennifer Cribbs"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: smartforce training [7:21933]


> I received a phone call today from a woman named Sondra Smith who is one
of
> their reps.  She said I have dropped my
> name on their site.  The website url is http://www.vip.smartcertify.com .
> Tfhe phone # she gave me is 1-800-653-4933
> ext 1264.  It is expensive but they have a plan that can be financed
through
> SallyMae Loans which is sort of like a
> student college loan that can be repayable after you finish classes and
> after they place you in a job.  They have 24hr
> support for their classes through the format of "chat rooms' that are run
by
> certified instructors that are certified in
> whatever cert you are currently pursuing, so you get instant replies to
> questions you might have through the course as
> you proceed forward.  They send out cd's of the materials pertaining to
the
> certs the person wants to achieve and they
> have job placement in whatever area you live in or where ever you choose
to
> work.  That is all I know at this point.  I
> talked to this woman for about 1hr on the phone.  It is a forced learning
> method, which I think is good.  You can only
> advance through the course with satisfactory completion of each subject.
> You can't skip ahead is what I think this
> means.  She called it force learning.  There would be one price for the
ccnp
> series of classes.  You would receive the
> material for all four tests at one time.  The same for the mcse and the
ccna
> and the a+.  She said they also have oracle
> and some other stuff which I wasn't really interested in.
>
> If you click on the link I gave you, it opens up a box wanting the sales
rep
> name.  Just type in sondra's name and then
> you can browse a little on their site.
>
> I sure there is more to this, but like I said, this is all I know at this
> point.  It nearly sounded too good to be true and you
> know what they say about that.  I was just hoping someone had some
personal
> knowledge of this and could tell me
> something also.  If I do proceed with this, I will let you know what I
think
> after I have personal experience of it.
>
> It also is endorsed by cisco and microsoft.....or at least she said so.
>
> I just finished putting my computer back together so I can browse back to
> the site now and read a little.  It was
> maintenance day....[preparing for a+]  ....
>
> Jenn
>
>
> 10/3/2001 2:44:18 PM, "Stull, Cory"  wrote:
>
> >never heard of it, could you give me some more detail so I can check it
out
> >also?
> >
> >thanks
> >Cory
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:55 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: smartforce training [7:21933]
> >
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >I would like some feedback on smartforce training.  Is anyone familiar
with
> >this?  I am thinking about purchasing this
> >curriculum and want to know if it is a waste of money or if it is
something
> >truely beneficial in obtaining your certification?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Jenn




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