Big problem with the IPExperts material is that it
requires 13 routers plus an ATM switch and ISDN
switch. That is alot of equipment to have around to
practice on. The labs should have been written to be
used on 5 or 6 routers not 13.


"B"



--- Paul Jin  wrote:
> I will post what I asked chuck about it earlier.. if
> you have not
> seen it yet.  
> -----------------------------
> 
> Author: Chuck Larrieu (Mailing List Post)
> Date:   10-18-01 10:53
> 
> there are several good sources for Lab prep material
> now. 
> 
> NLI / Bootcamp, Fatkid, and the one sold through
> Cert Zone. 
> 
> NLI is comprehensive. Their older Labs contain a lot
> of obsolete material, 
> but this does not diminish their value. NLI would
> like you to rent rack time 
> from them, but many of their labs can be done in a
> typical home lab. 
> 
> Fat Kid Labs seem to be more topic specific, rather
> than comprehensive in 
> nature. But they are worth looking at. Fat Kid has
> very reasonable rental 
> rates, but most of their stuff can be done at home. 
> 
> IP Xpert builds their labs around a large pod, and
> their model is that they 
> rent you rack time at reasonable rates to do their
> labs. One can jigger the 
> setup, and get a lot of the stuff done on a home
> lab. 
> 
> It comes down to where you want to spend your
> dollars. In terms of cost, Fat 
> Kid is the least expensive and NLI is the most
> expensive. But the cost of 
> the study material is about that of a 2501 on an
> auction site. Your cost for 
> setting up a home lab will be far and away more
> expensive than any materials 
> you buy. These days, the study materials available
> are excellent. the major 
> differences between NLI and IP Xpert are in the
> presentation ( several 
> sheets stapled together versus a nicely bound book )
> the presence or absence 
> of obsolete topics ( NLI has been around a lot
> longer, and has legacy 
> material which can be skipped ) some cosmetic
> presentation things like color 
> diagrams nicely done on Visio versus hand sketched. 
> 
> Seems to me I'm forgetting somebody. Solutions
> Experts or something? I'll 
> have to dig around. 
> 
> Oh yeah, and Vlab. 
> 
> HTH 
> 
> Chuck 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
> Paul Jin 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:42 PM 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: RE: Off Topic - CCIE Lab Prep
> recommendation [7:23091] 
> 
> 
> Chuck, 
> So in your opinion, you do believe that this is one
> of the better 
> labs and complex enough that it will help you deal
> with the real 
> lab??? 
> 
> 
> 
> Paul 
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