What Cisco says in their certification policies, if I remember
correctly, is that you're only supposed to list the highest
certification you've earned in a given track, ie I shouldn't list both
CCNA and CCNP on my resume, nor should I list both CCDA and CCDP. But if
someone does a text search on the bodies of a batch of resumes, a search
for CCNA wouldn't dig up my resume unless I list both CCNA and CCNP. Add
to that, if I list both and someone runs a search on ccna AND ccnp, then
my resume should theoretically come up higher on the list.

Is it cheesy? Well yes, but I've met HR people who will tell you with a
straight face they stop reading resumes after 100. There was also a
point when very few recruiters even knew what a CCNP was; they just
thought there was a CCNA and a CCIE, and a CCIE was somehow better than
a CCNA.

Yes, the whole process is lame. I compare it to wrestling with a pug in
the mud (remember, the pig enjoys it!)

Hal Logan  CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing and Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College


> -----Original Message-----
> From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615]
> 
> 
> But wait a minute, now.  Isn't the CCNA a pre-req for the 
> CCNP?  Or did your
> friend happen to get the CCNP back in the really old days 
> when I believe the
> CCNA was not a CCNP prereq?
> 
> But yeah - the WAN certs are/were pretty useless.  I think the best
> summation of them is this:
> 
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.certification.cisc
> o+CCNA+WAN+Ber
> nie&hl=en&rnum=4&selm=D114BCE99217DBA5.C29F159A840CE0A3.4672B0
> C849D9CF41%40l
> p.airnews.net
> 
> ""Logan, Harold""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It's funny, the only person I know who got the CCNA WAN 
> Switching was a
> > CCNP who also wanted the letters "CCNA" on his resume in case he ran
> > into a headhunter who knew what a CCNA was, but had never heard of a
> > CCNP.
> >
> > I've heard of stranger things, but not many...
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:53 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615]
> > >
> > >
> > > Yup, it is retiring.  First, they retired the WAN CCIE 
> and now, they
> > > have finished off the rest.
> > >
> > > Not sure how valuable this cert really is now days.
> > >
> > > As far as replacement, not really sure if they will really
> > > come out with
> > > anything to replace it.
> > >
> > > The new C/S CCIE's written portion can be taken with the 
> WAN switching
> > > option from what I hear.  I think 50% of the test is
> > > general and is the same and the last 50% can be chosen among many
> > > different options and WAN switching is supposed to be one of them.
> > >
> > > Still, in the lab, no WAN switching equipment.  just routers and
> > > lan switches.
> > >
> > > Paul




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