In an environment that large with no clearly defined area 0, would not
IS-IS also be a viable choice from a technological standpoint?  I
understand that not as many people are familiar with it but it seems
like it might be a good fit there.

It seems like the argument is always EIGRP vs OSPF, but I think people
really should consider IS-IS in the mix if it fits.

What are your thoughts?

John

>>> "W. Alan Robertson"  12/13/01 12:14:40
PM >>>
One reason that you may prefer EIGRP over OSPF would be in a
particluarly "meshy" environment.

In an OSPF network, inter-area traffic must pass through area zero
(commonly called the core).  Traffic between Areas 1 and 2 must be
sent through Area 0, even if Areas 1 and 2 have a direct connection.

This is the default behavior, which can be addressed in a number of
ways (virtual links, extending area 0, etc), but you'd hardly want to
start off having to resort to this kind of trickery.  EIGRP, on the
other hand, would handle this configuration out of the box, and you
would get desirable traffic flows without having to do anything fancy.

1 year ago, I was deploying a network for a large federal institution
that had 3 Main locations, and over 2000 satellite locations that were
triple homed to each...  The main locations had dozens of routers, and
each router hundreds of connections (Frame-relay circuits, with a lot
of DLCIs per circuit).  There was no good location to define as Area
0, as an equal amount of traffic would be going to each of the 3 main
locations.

OSPF, as much as I like it, is not well suited to an environment like
this.  EIGRP, with a good addressing plan, and good summarization,
handles it like a champ, and will continue to scale even if they add
another 2000 sites.  Summarize everything you can, everywhere that you
can, and keep that in mind while figuring out your addressing.

The biggest mistake that people make when deploying, or living with,
and OSPF network, is that they tend to get sloppy with Area 0.  If
your topology doesn't allow for a clearly defined core, then you
probably shouldn't try to force it...  OSPF will make you pay later,
and dearly.

Look at your topology, and the flow of traffic that you anticipate...

>From what you have described below, you seem to have a topolgy that
would probably work well with OSPF.  It sounds like you will have a
Core location, and that you anticipate any Remote-site to Remote-site
traffic to come through the core anyway.  OSPF will probably work out
well for you, but don't feel like you have to switch to it.  An
elegantly designed network, with good addressing and summarization is
impressive regardless of routing protocol.

Don't let it become a Holy War...  Protocol selection should be
dictated by topology, design goals, and supporability (Does your
networking Team have sufficient experience with OSPF?  They already
know, or are at least familiar with EIGRP); don't let it become about
religion.  ;)

Alan~

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mears, Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: OSPF or EIGRP [7:28966]


> Hi All,
>
> To your question; we are, as all should be, a pure IP and Cisco shop
(:.
> As to why we originally went Eigrp, who knows it was before my time
but I
> would guess Cisco had some influence on it, but now we are growing
and plan,
> no not plan but have bought the routers\switches for 400 locations
and will
> be deploying @ the beginning of the year.
>
> I know EIGRP will scale well and will handle our growth for the time
being.
> As my research points, we will be good with EIGRP for a long time
and the
> differences I found between the two are really nominal. But since
the
> network we are rolling out is in parallel to the present, we do not
have to
> worry about the migration part, so we have the opportunity to do it
right
> and impress people long after I am gone.
>
> So correct me where I am wrong and please show me the light OSPF or
EIGRP.
>
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregg Malcolm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: OSPF or EIGRP [7:28966]
>
> Rob,
>
> Few questions. What routed protocols you plan to run?  Just IP or
> IP/IPX/AT,etc.?  Any other vendor equipment other than cisco?
Firewalls
> running OSPF for failover?  Why did you initially choose EIGRP?
Does the
> network design lend itself well to a backbone area?  Redundant links
> (including DDR) ?
>
> I think if you can answer some of these questions, it will help the
group
> give you a better response.
>
> Gregg
>
>
> ""Mears, Rob""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We are in the middle of building out a new ATM network for the
Core and on
> > the outside we are going to be running about 80 3640 or 2600.  We
are in a
> > big debate about the routing protocol, we are currently EIGRP.
> >
> > I have collected lots of info off Cisco's Web site about the two
but
> wanted
> > to hear it from the Engineers in the trenches.
> > What's your take on it? If it were you what would you run (EIGRP,
OSPF)
> and
> > why?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rob
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