When the frame has the DE bit set that is only telling the Frame-Relay switch that if we experience congestion in our network the frames that have the DE bit set are the frames that will be discarded first. If you are seeing no FECNs or BECNs that sounds to me like you are probably working with a frame-relay provider that doesn't over subscribe it's trunks as much as many other providers do. That sounds refreshing for a change! I would say you want to implement traffic shaping regardless of the amount of DE packets you are seeing. DE packets are a good thing. That's one of the nice things about frame-relay.
Also keep in mind red frames. If the frame-relay network is configured for policing, any frames that are coming in faster than they are suppose to will be dropped at the switch. That is why it is so important to implement traffic shaping. Hope this helps! -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Fame Relay FECN BECN [7:29675] Congratulations, you're working with a commercial frame-relay provider. When I was a sprint customer, they marked all of my traffic as DE, regardless of CIR. Very annoying. FECN'S, BECN'S, and DE are all features that your provider may or may not have configured (properly) in their network. They are required to pass data, not meet with accepted industry standards. -----Original Message----- From: DAGENHARDT Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fame Relay FECN BECN [7:29675] Group, I thought I had FECN and BECN down in regards to frame relay setup. Recently I have come across some router output that doesn't make sence to me. I don't understand why I have DE pkts when I don't have and FECN or BECN errors. Or for that matter how I can have so many DE pks and no of them were dropped. I was thinking of implementing traffic shaping, but I don't know if that will help if I am not receiving any BECN errors. On top of that I understand that when your CIR is reached packets get marked DE but at what point do they actually get dropped. Can someone try to make a little sence out of this for me? DLCI = 131, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE = Serial0/1.131 input pkts 29103083 output pkts 23370364 in bytes 3538537810 out bytes 941866396 dropped pkts 13 in FECN pkts 0 in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0 out BECN pkts 0 in DE pkts 1154469 out DE pkts 0 out bcast pkts 1379364 out bcast bytes 110300947 pvc create time 10w2d, last time pvc status changed 3w2d Thank you, Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29703&t=29675 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]