Thanks for the heads-up. I'm glad to see that they're finally attempting to address the lack of rigor.
An important, more on-topic point about test taking. I get very jealous of speed readers because I am most emphatically not one of them and my life would be a lot easier if I could count myself amongst their ranks. Spending 10 or fewer seconds on a computer certification question and correctly answering it is possible by NOT reading the whole question and keeping in mind the following: 1. in an overwhelming majority of cases, the answer will allude to concepts covered in the official vendor courseware or educational press materials and not stray outside those confines. many answers on the multiple choice questions fall outside of these topics. 2. in many cases, the vendor is looking to empasize situations where practices surrounding the successful implementation of their products deviate from open standards or accepted industry best practices 3. many of the choices are blatantly wrong & stand out as a result.. There are (or "were" if your account is correct) other heuristics you can invoke to take shortcuts, but it's been too long since I sat for a computer cert for me to recall them all. anyway, this is most definitely a case where your mileage may vary, so I most DEFINITELY do NOT reccomend this approach, especially as money is generally involved. Based on the tests I was provided with, the six or so vendors I mentioned are guilty of sponsoring certification programs that make use of test questions which fail to establish a candidate's to a much greater extent than Cisco (even if they did dumb-down the cc[n/d][p/a] routing & switching tests with the advent of version 2). "Mark Odette II" @groupstudy.com on 12/20/2001 01:19:51 PM Please respond to "Mark Odette II" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Cullimore) Subject: RE: CIT CCNP questions [7:29477] Just a forewarning- Don't even think about using that logic if you decide to take the new MS Design exams. They are Case-Study based, and you will use every bit of 3.5 of the 4 hours these tests are set for. ... and it doesn't matter if you are a speed reader. This tests are much more comprehensive, and therefore more difficult to pass. For those test takers that like to get up and go take a smoke break during the long tests... I'd advise the acquisition of the Patch. A colleague of mine, that is a smoker, took the smoke break, and it cost him - he failed because he simply ran out of time to complete enough questions to pass. -- No that has to suck. Talk about a 100.00 cigarette... hope he enjoyed it! Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CIT CCNP questions [7:29477] Regarding the number of questions on a given exam: For lesser certifications (lotus, microsoft, NAI, checkpoint, nortel, novell) i can sometimes get away with spending 10 seconds or less on each question, allowing me to squeeze a certification exam into an otherwise implausibly short timeslot. This comes in handy (& saves a potential complete waste of an exam fee) when your boss refuses to allow you more than 20 minutes away from the office because of a major frame relay outage. So, sometimes advance knowledge of the number of questions a given exam uses (or even the knowledge that it is adaptive and not fixed) can, in limited circumstances, come in handy. "Priscilla Oppenheimer" @groupstudy.com on 12/19/2001 05:03:30 PM Please respond to "Priscilla Oppenheimer" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Cullimore) Subject: RE: CIT CCNP questions [7:29477] At 10:17 AM 12/19/01, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zajac_Zden=ECk?= wrote: >Hello Priscilla, > >On my own experience, the information given on that link is not correct at >least in number of question. I was just commenting on the categorization of topics. Saying that there are just four topics (HDLC, connectionless models, IOS backups, and troubleshooting) is obviously screwed up. Cisco used to say that in all their documentation about CIT. They are slowly fixing it in some places. I don't care how many questions are on the test and can't understand why anyone else cares either. Priscilla >Cisco wrote 55-65 question, but I received 30% >more question - 79 to be exact. > >I did all of the CCNP rounting stack exams within 15 days, last of them >(CIT) six days ago and what I am sure, Cisco never give me less than 72 >question. > >Something changed, who know? >Zdenek > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:24 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: CIT CCNP questions [7:29477] > > >At 11:57 AM 12/18/01, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zajac_Zden=ECk?= wrote: > >I passed CIT only few days ago. Number of question varies from 65 to 79 in > >the CCNP stack . I do not know why, but the topics are slightly different > >from that announced on Cisco web. Strictly speaking, you will be counted > >only in 4 areas: > > > >Connectionless Models > >HDLC > >IOS backups > >Troubleshooting > >The categorization of topics for CIT has been broken for a while though >cisco has made some efforts to fix it. The list here is better than it used >to be: > >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exa m >s/640-506.html > > > >Yes, there are some question about Appletalk, but nothing special. The same > >for IPX. In my opinion, you will be quite prepared, if you go down your > >notes for previouse CCNP stack exams (I took CIT at the end) > > > >Cisco recommended courses and books used > > > >wish you luck > >Zdenek > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Yarie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:28 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: CIT CCNP questions [7:29477] > > > > > >Hello all, > > > >I would like to take the CIT exam (640 - 506) and I have couple of > >questions: > > > >Does any one knows what is the total amount of questions asked? > >what is the percentage of Novell IPX and AppleTalk out of it? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Yaron >________________________ > >Priscilla Oppenheimer >http://www.priscilla.com ________________________ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com ================================================================ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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