I think the participants in the survey probably obtained a good salary while
the economy was steaming along.  Anyone trying to obtain these salaries now
while looking for a new job will be in for a rudely awakening.  Of course,
there are exceptions, but in general, I believe that's true.

Salaries aside, I believe the article stated that experience is more
important then certifications.  I believe that is true as well.

Anyone update his/her MCSE NT 4.0 to Win2k yet?  The Jan issue of MCP mag
says that peeps can get an avg. of $4,400 more then a peeps with NT 4.0
cert.  Believable?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Steven A. Ridder
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:44 PM
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Subject: Re: certification salary posting-a new direction [7:30237]


I don't think the survey's are inflated.  There's one on tcp mag also that
seems OK too.  They seem right on topic.


""Puckette, Larry (TIFPC)""  wrote in message
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> A new direction for the topic.... It seems that the consensus is that the
> surveys are inflated. I cannot think of a better forum that would give an
> accurate result than this one. And with the topic having strung on this
> long, I must not be the only one on the list that has this on their mind
> right now. Has the list ever did it's own survey to get a more realistic
> view? Knowing that they aren't underpaid or as underpaid may remove some
> strife from some, and let them focus more on studying....
>
> Larry Puckette
> Network Analyst CCNA,MCP,LANCP
> Temple Inland
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 512/434-1838
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Kaminski, Shawn G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:43 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: certification salary posting [7:30237]
>
> I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel that these salary surveys
are
> a load of crap. As Sam mentioned, he doesn't support the claims of the
> salary survey and I agree with him. I think the name of these survey's
> should be changed to "Salary's that we wish we made". People are probably
> ashamed of the salary's they actually make and inflate the crap out of
them
> for the survey. Just my opinion.
>
> Shawn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sam sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: certification salary posting [7:30237]
>
>
> group,
>
> I found this link on a microsoft site. It mainly analyzes the the salaries
> of people holding Microsoft certifications. The applicable part is on the
> 3rd page of the report which lists the estimated salaries of all different
> cert's including CCNA,CCNP, CCIE.
>
> http://mcpmag.com/salarysurveys/
>
> I'm not supporting the claims on this site. I'm posting it here because
> people always ask the list for this info so i hope noone comes after me
for
> posting this. I currently hold MCSE and CCNA with 2.5 years experience and
> don't make what the list says my average would be, and this is working in
> NYC where they pay very well.
>
> food for thought
>
> sam sneed




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