I must confess that my CCIE Lab preparation with regards to DLSw was
probably a lot like most peoples - I got a good SLSw book a few days before
my date and spent 10-12 hours learning "enough to be dangerous" I can't
comment on the suitability of this approach, and even if I could, the fact
is that I was having too many other problems in my Lab to where DLSw was the
least of my worries.
that said, if there were no token ring switch in the picture, I would have
something like this:

TR_port----DLSW_Router-------Virtual_Ring-------DLSW_router------TR_port

my DLSw config would include the source-bridge ring-group [virtual_ring # ]
and the dlsw ring-list x rings [whatever rings are to receive dlsw traffic]

my token ring interfaces would be configured with the source-bridge [ring_a]
[bridge] [ring_b] numbers where ring_a is the ring to which the TR interface
is attached and the bridge is somewhat arbitrary ( stop grinding your teeth,
Priscilla! ;-> ) and ring_b is the virtual-ring number.

But if I were to do it this way:

DLSw_router----TR_port-------TR_Switch-------TR_port---DLSw_router

then the virtual-ring is on the TR switch, isn't it? I.e. now the virtual
ring is something configured on the switch, and to me that looks like the
TrBRF number.

Maybe I am just confusing my terminology here. If the two Tr ports were
connected to a mau, they would both be on the same ring number, and the DLSw
command source-bridge ring-group number would be that actual physical ring
number.

Is it time to go home yet? ;->

Chuck


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> I think you are close but here are my thoughts off the top of my
> noodle, the source ring would be the TRCRF as you say.  I think the
> bridge number just needs to be the same on both routers and is not
> associated with the BRF.  lastly the target ring is the number you
> choose via the source-ring bridge-group command on the router.
>
>   FWIW
>
>  Dave
>
> Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> >
> > for whatever reason, my mind has been ensnared with thoughts of the Cat
> 3920
> > token ring switch and various implications.
> > I want to run a couple of concepts through the list, just to check that
my
> > understanding is correct.
> >
> > So, because of the nature of token ring, one has to do some jiggering to
do
> > token ring switching. IBM or whomever, in their wisdom, came up with the
> > following model:
> >
> > in general - token ring bridging works on the ringbridgering model
> >
> > port - into which plugs some physical token ring device, which may be a
> > router, an end station, or a token ring shared media device like a mau.
(
> > much the way one might plug ethernet hubs into switch ports ) A port can
> > connect only to one TrCRF ( see next layer )
> >
> > TrCRF - token ring concentrator ring function. This is the logical
virtual
> > ring. more than one physical port can connect to a TrCRF, which in turn
can
> > connect to only one TrBRF ( see next layer )
> >
> > TrBRF - token ring bridge relay function. As implied by the name, the
TrBRF
> > bridges between the virtual rings. The TrBRF is also the "VLAN".
therefore
> > routing must occur between stations ultimately connected through
different
> > TrBRF's.
> >
> > This is what I am not sure about.  Per the 3920 simulator I am using
> > different BRF's can be on the same subnet. I don't have access to a real
> > device to see if this is true in the real world.
> >
> > Also, there is a decent explaination of token ring vlans in the Kennedy
> > Clark book Cisco Lan Switching. However, Clark seems to emphasize source
> > route switching, and the advantages in terms of explorers, rather than
> > straight ( if there is such a thing in token ring ) switching, and the
> > advantages to end stations.
> >
> > One of the things I am getting around to in this post is DLSw over a
token
> > ring switch. DLSw is configured on a cisco router using bridging and a
> > virtual ring which is created across a TCP network between peers.
> >
> > router ----virtual_ring------router
> >     |                                         |
> >  TR_port                            TR_port
> >
> > with the configuration of the TR port using the source-bridge set of
> > commands source-bridge source-ring-number bridge-number
target-ring-number
> >
> > If I wanted to run DLSw across a 3920, then on my router ( whose token
ring
> > port is plugged into a 3920 ) I would use the source-bridge
> > source-ring-number bridge-number target-ring-number comand. The source
ring
> > would be identical to the TrCRF ring, the bridge would be the TrBRF, and
> the
> > target ring would be the DLSw virtual ring, as confgured under DLSw. Is
> that
> > correct?
> >
> > Sorry if this is a bit disjointed. I'm working from home today and the
> > family seem to think that if they are on vacation, so am I.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
> > Chuck
> --
> David Madland
> Sr. Network Engineer
> CCIE# 2016
> Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"




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