If this becomes persistent, along with having the tech check the sj, Have
them run head to head with his test set. Do it after hours if you do not
have a backup line.




Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
> 
> Thanks Larry,
> 
> I've asked the tech to call me anytime tonight when they've
> finished the
> test, and if the story is the same as earlier today, I will
> insist on having
> the telco dispatched to check the SmartJack.
> 
> Ole
> 
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>  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 5:11 PM
> To: 'Ole Drews Jensen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Carrier Transitions : Any Comments [7:30829]
> 
> 
> Ole, just a word of experience here, don't let this drag on too
> long without
> insisting that telco goes to the site and checks the smart jack
> CHASSIS. I
> have seen a slot or the whole chassis be the problem with this
> symptom many
> times. There is something about them that gives clear loopback
> tests from
> the 'front' (entry point from telco) of the smart jack card but
> they can
> only hardwire a loopback from the 'back' (exit point towards
> CSU). Of
> course, they will be obstinate towards this request.....
> 
> Larry Puckette
> Network Analyst CCNA,MCP,LANCP
> Temple Inland
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 512/434-1838
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:52 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: Carrier Transitions : Any Comments [7:30829]
> 
> Thanks Michael, and everyone else who have replied to my e-mail.
> 
> The situation has changed, because I just saw that another ct
> (carrier
> transition) had occured, and that the PVC had been reset once
> since I
> cleared the counters, so I called the provider back and they
> are going to do
> another stress test this evening.
> 
> Just for fun (after I cleared it earlier), I did a show
> service-module to
> see what the DSU had seen, and got the following:
> 
> ELVIS#sh ser
> Module type is T1/fractional
>     Hardware revision is 0.88, Software revision is 0.2,
>     Image checksum is 0xED22BEC5, Protocol revision is 0.1
> Receiver has no alarms.
> Framing is ESF, Line Code is B8ZS, Current clock source is line,
> Fraction has 4 timeslots (64 Kbits/sec each), Net bandwidth is
> 256
> Kbits/sec.
> Last module self-test (done 02:37:10): Passed
> Last clearing of alarm counters 02:38:53
>     loss of signal        :    0,
>     loss of frame         :    0,
>     AIS alarm             :    0,
>     Remote alarm          :    1, last occurred 01:18:35
>     Module access errors  :    0,
> Total Data (last 10 15 minute intervals):
>     0 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
>     0 Slip Secs, 0 Fr Loss Secs, 0 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded
> Mins
>     0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 0
> Unavail Secs
> Data in current interval (573 seconds elapsed):
>     0 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
>     0 Slip Secs, 0 Fr Loss Secs, 0 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded
> Mins
>     0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 0
> Unavail Secs
> 
> I can see there's a remote alarm when the PVC went down the
> last time, which
> to me looks like the problem isn't my DSU nor the cable. Any
> comments to
> that?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ole
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>  http://www.RouterChief.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  NEED A JOB ???
>  http://www.oledrews.com/job
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Munoz, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:46 PM
> To: 'Ole Drews Jensen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Carrier Transitions : Any Comments [7:30829]
> 
> 
> I have worked on the telco side and as you can imagine, this
> happens a bit..
> At least you were working with the telco..  You don't know how
> many people
> would refuse to change anything..
> Did the problem clear after telco testing or after you replaced
> the wire?
> That will tell you where the problem was..  I'm curious, how
> did you know
> the carrier transitions were within 24 hours?  Had you
> experienced the
> bouncing and cleared the counters the previous day?  If so,
> those were the
> only errors you received?
> For a T1, telco will usually run QRSS, 1's and 0's..  DDS,
> 2047, 1's and
> SP5..  More can be run of course but generally not, from my
> experience..
> I remember I used to see a common problem with a certain 12.0x
> version and
> 2600 with WIC-1DSU-T1 (imagine trying to tell someone to change
> their
> IOS....)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike Munoz
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Carrier Transitions : Any Comments [7:30829]
> 
> 
> My networking skills are apparently being tested these days,
> because the
> frame relay circuit went down to one of my branch offices.
> 
> I got someone at the local office to telnet into the router,
> which was
> down/down, and the LMI was down/down, and there were just under
> 10 carrier
> transitions in the last 24 hours.
> 
> I had them powercycle the router without any luck.
> 
> I concluded that my provider was most likely the cause of the
> problem, and
> that it was at the branch office circuit, since my router here
> was talking
> fine with the other two remote offices, and my LMI was up/up.
> 
> My provider told me that the circuit was bouncing, or in other
> words, it had
> been going down and back up several times since yesterday
> evening.
> 
> After several hours, they did an out of service test, where
> they told me
> that it had tested dirty to the CSU but clean to the SmartJack,
> so they were
> going to put it on hold until I had replaced the WAN cable and
> reseated the
> WIC-1DSU-T1 card in the 1720 router.
> 
> I went out to the branch office and did that, and the PVC has
> after I
> powered it on been up for about an hour now.
> 
> My question now is:
> 
> Is this (A) a normal thing that you suddenly have to reseat the
> WIC and/or
> replace the WAN cable, and that it can cause carrier
> transitions, or is this
> more likely (B) my provider that has found and corrected the
> error on their
> site, but now is trying to make it look like it was my
> equipment that was
> faulty, or (C) ????
> 
> Thanks for any comments to this,
> 
> Ole
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>  http://www.RouterChief.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  NEED A JOB ???
>  http://www.oledrews.com/job
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 




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