I think you're correct about that.  What I don't get is why 
some of the routers flat out ignore the neighbor statement.  
Even if it's not absolutely necessary, why--in some cases-would 
they ignore it?

I posted this on the TAC Q&A Forum.  I'm hoping someone will 
have an answer there.

John


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---- On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Jim Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> I thought you only need the neighbor statement on one side of 
the
> connection? 
> 
> Once a router accepts the hello, adjacencies are formed with 
information
> from the hello via unicast communication from that point 
forward.
> 
> Sort of like if I shout over a hill, "Hey Routerman are you 
there, this
> is
> Jim." Then you would respond back to me by name.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Router Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement 
[7:31656]
> 
> 
> I was able to reproduce your exact scenario.  I had a hub 
with two
> spokes
> and the neighbor statements only appeared on the hub. This is 
very
> interesting and I'm not sure what the reason behind it is.  I 
am glad
> that
> this was brought up, because I would love to get to the 
bottom of this
> situation.  I'll keep you posted ""John Neiberger""  wrote in 
message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The network statement definitely was there, but the 
neighbor 
> > statements would only appear on the hub router.  
Interestingly, I just
> 
> > saw a sample configuration similar to this on CCO and they 
only had 
> > the neighbor statement on one router, not both.  I think as 
long as 
> > one router has a neighbor statement configured, the 
adjacency will 
> > form assuming all other things being equal (network type, 
etc.)
> >
> > The adjacencies formed but I had to cycle the interfaces to 
get things
> > started.   Even if the neighbor statement is only required 
on one
> side,
> > I still don't understand why the router wouldn't let me add 
it.  The 
> > adjacencies would eventually form, however, and routing 
occurred 
> > exactly as I expected it.
> >
> > I did notice a minor issue with the neighbor statements on 
the hub.  I
> 
> > had three of them, and one of them inserted 'priority 1' at 
the end, 
> > yet the other two remained as I entered them.
> >
> > >>> "Router Man"  1/11/02 3:08:03 PM >>>
> > The only time that the "neighbor" statement will not show 
up in the 
> > running-config, is if you do not have a "network" statement 
under the 
> > "router ospf" process.  I am doubting that the neighbors 
formed an 
> > adjacency without the neigbor or network statements showing 
up under 
> > the ospf config.
> > If the adjacency was actually formed, then it must be a bug.
> >
> > Another thing that I have noticed is than when trying to 
use the 
> > neighbor statement to set the priority, "neighbor 1.1.1.1 
priority 
> > 255" the priority
> > will change to something other than what I set it too.  It 
took me a
> > while
> > to figure this one out.   The problem is that I have to 
have matching
> > "ip
> > ospf priority 255" statements under the interfaces running 
ospf .
> > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > It was hot, too hot.  Our detective had been working 
feverishly to 
> > > configure OSPF over NBMA without the use of ip ospf 
network
> > statements.
> > > He knew that to do this he must explicitly add neighbor 
statements
> > or
> > > adjacencies would not form.
> > >
> > > He logs into the hub router and types in his three 
neighbor
> > statements.
> > >  All seems well.  It's still too hot, but it's a dry heat.
> > >
> > > He now logs into one of the spoke routers and types in 
his neighbor 
> > > statement.  He pauses momentarily and then checks the OSPF
> > adjacencies.
> > > Something seems to be wrong, he thinks to himself.  This 
ought to be
> 
> > > working, but it isn't.  Why not?  He looks through the 
running 
> > > config
> > to
> > > look for any errors and notices the the neighbor 
statement that he
> > just
> > > entered is missing!
> > >
> > > He slowly and deliberately types it in again making sure 
there are
> > no
> > > mistakes but yet it still does not show up in the running
> > configuration.
> > >  Is this an IOS issue?  Operator error?  Some rift in the 
space-time
> 
> > > continuum?
> > >
> > > He jumps to another spoke router running a different IOS 
and tries
> > the
> > > same thing with the same result.  He is frantic now, 
beads of sweat 
> > > pouring down his face.  What if this were the real CCIE 
lab exam?
> > Could
> > > this be a fatal stumbling block?
> > >
> > > He finally notices that adjacencies do eventually form 
after
> > clearing
> > > the relevant interfaces.  This must be because the hub 
router
> > accepted
> > > the neighbor statements.  But what if it hadn't, he 
ponders.  He
> > thinks
> > > forward into the future when--a day after taking the lab 
exam--he 
> > > receives the dreaded email that says, "We're sorry, it is 
apparent
> > that
> > > you have no clue."
> > >
> > > Back to the real world....
> > >
> > > What was the cause of the missing neighbor statements?  
Have any of
> > you
> > > run into this before?  I've never bothered to explicitly 
use
> > neighbor
> > > statements as I'm in the habit of using the ip ospf 
network command
> > to
> > > make them unnecessary.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John
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