Yes, that does make sense.  Thanx for the detailed reply.  I did finally use
the following:

conf t
int ethernet0/0
no ip access-list extended secure2
ip access-list extended secure2
deny tcp any any eq 6666
deny tcp any any eq 139
permit ip any any

int ethernet0/0
ip access-group secure2 out
ip access-group secure2 in

exit
wr

Thanx again,
Anil Gupte


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Petzold" 
To: "Anil Gupte" ; 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]


> Remember the model OSI model.  IP can have multiple higher level protocols
> running over it.  So IP uses protocol numbers to identify the higher level
> protocol that it should send the data to.  If you do a deny ? on a router
> you will see all the different protocols (eigrp, gre, icmp, ospf, pim,
tcp,
> udp).  Once the IP layer passes the packet up to the transport layer the
> layer 4 protocol has to know which application to send the data to.  So
the
> TCP protocol will send traffic on port 80 to the web server and traffic to
> port 25 to the smtp server.
>
> Layer 7 - Application
> Layer 6 - Presentation
> Layer 5 - Session
> Layer 4 - Transport  Layer 3 - Network    Layer 2 - Datalink   Layer 1 -
Physical
>
> The first line will not work.  IP is the layer 3 protocol, tcp, udp, icmp,
> etc are layer 4 protocols.  So while tcp and udp have port numbers, ip
> doesn't.  If I want to deny http traffic I must deny tcp port 80 because
> http uses TCP port 80.  The same holds true for UDP.  If I wanted to deny
> snmp traffic I would deny UDP port 161.
>
> If you set the last line to "permit tcp any any" it would allow any tcp
> based traffic but because there is a specific deny all at the end of all
> access-lists, you would deny udp, icmp, eigrp, ospf, etc. The permit ip
any
> any says allow all layer 4 ip protocols.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Anil Gupte
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]
>
>
> Actually my question was not clear, I think.  My confusion is with the IP
> vs. TCP.  In other words should it not be somthing like:
>
> deny ip any any eq 139
> permit ip any any
>
> Why deny TCP and permit IP as opposed to deny IP and permit IP?
>
> Also, the purpose of these is that I am trying to block some suspicious
> activity on those ports (I think someone may be running an illegal IRC
> server on that port).
>
> Thanx for the reply (and the kid gloves). :-)
> Anil Gupte
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Nawalaniec"
> To: "'Anil Gupte'" ;
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]
>
>
> > Hi Anil,
> >
> > Sometimes its scaring posting to this group. =)
> >
> > To answer your question,
> > if you don't the permit IP any any command, there is an implicit deny
rule
> > at the end of an access-list, which will drop all traffic that you have
> not
> > allowed through the access-list.
> >
> > The other two deny statements are dropping netbios port 139 and
something
> > that uses port 6666.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anil Gupte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 7:59 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]
> >
> >
> > Hi All!
> >
> > I watch this list occassionally (when I have time).  This is my first
post
> > to this list, so be kind. :p)
> >
> > In the access list below:
> > **************
> > conf t
> > int ethernet0/0
> > no ip access-list extended secure2
> > ip access-list extended secure2
> > deny tcp any any eq 6666
> > deny tcp any any eq 139
> > permit ip any any
> >
> > int ethernet0/0
> > ip access-group secure2 out
> > ip access-group secure2 in
> >
> > exit
> > wr
> > **************
> > Why is it that you need to deny TCP and permit IP?  Or did I not do this
> > right?
> >
> > Thanx,
> > Anil Gupte




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