The CCIE does not supercede CCNP. They are different certification programs, managed by different departments at Cisco. A person can be both CCNP and CCIE. CCNP means that he or she has gone through the Career Certification Program, which last I knew was still managed by Cisco's training department. CCIE is a different program, managed by TAC I think, with no prereqs from the Career Certification Program.
In reality, he'll probably stop referring to CCNP at some point, since CCIE already means that he's a guru. But there's no requirement he do this and maybe it doesn't even make sense. CCNP is a separate achievement that warrants respect on its own. Anyway, Congratulations, George! First try too! Great job. Priscilla At 02:34 PM 3/7/02, Sean Knox wrote: >As you don't need to hold any Cisco certs to get your CCIE, I would assume >he's still a CCNP. Anyone else know? > >Sean > >-----Original Message----- >From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:11 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] > > >Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more. I think the CCIE supercedes >that. Am I correct? > >-- > >RFC 1149 Compliant. > > >""Richard Newman"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Great job. > > > > Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP > > > > > > ""George Zhang"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > All, > > > > > > The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test > > > yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the "Congratulations on > > Passing > > > the CCIE Lab!" this morning. > > > > > > I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was > > told > > > that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. >My > > > test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about > > > 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some > > pressure > > > on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I > > could > > > go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked > > through > > > rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing > > > except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided > > to > > > skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. >Along > > > the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just > > about > > > the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and >told > > me > > > that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was > > > Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my >questions > > > and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of > > the > > > test. > > > > > > I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me >to > > > achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support >and > > > understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my > > > goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of > > > NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important > > > part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who >scheduled > > > me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on > > > practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for > > > lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those > > that > > > I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks > > also > > > to Paul for putting this great list together. > > > > > > As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a > > little > > > over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. > > > Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take >the > > > lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not >get > > > time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. >At > > > work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the >whole > > > year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished > > > school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. > > In > > > October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take >the > > > lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the > > > ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I >found > > > that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce >and > > > Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC > > > (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I > > > registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of >last > > > year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this > > year > > > I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have > > studied > > > 8-10 hours every day. > > > > > > As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I & II, > > > Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by >people > > > on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like >is > > > Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a > > few > > > topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home > > lab. > > > So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as > > Mentor > > > Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I > > > dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than >hands-on > > > practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the >most > > > important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val > > and > > > Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN >ME > > > ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot >of > > > things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So > > the > > > NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me >to > > > access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last >few > > > weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before >your > > > lab date. > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > George Zhang > > > CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP > > > Sr. Network Architect > > > Compuware Corpration > > > 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050 > > > East Rutherford, NJ 07073 > > > 732-494-0288 > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ________________________ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37576&t=37490 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
