Do you think I need a couple for my home lab?  The largest I've worked
with are oc-3's.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Bernico" 
To: "Mike Mandulak" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]


> Heh, for only about $240,000 list you too can own a 1 port oc-192 POS card
for a 124xx series GSR that will do not only PPP and HDLC over sonet, but
also frame relay encapsulation...
>
> Seriously though, we aren't ready for 10Gig yet, but when the time comes
I'm considering using 10 Gig E between our core routers instead.  I'm not
sure how serious I am about that, but the line cards will be less than half
the cost.  Anyone other SPs out there considering that?
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Mandulak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tue 3/12/2002 5:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
>
>
>
> Out of curiosity, what hardware/protocol do you use for an OC-192?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Bernico"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:28 PM
> Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
>
>
> > I work for a large ISP.  As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing
as
> a
> > high speed ATM link. In the cisco carrier class ATM world oc-12 is as
fast
> > as you go.  Unless of course you use the mgx 8850, the biggest piece of
> junk
> > ever painted blue and stamped with a bridge.  ATM is still a great way
to
> do
> > statistical multiplexing, a great revenue stream for carriers and
popular
> > among the "connect all the sites in my enterprise together with DS3s
> > crowd."  ATM circuit emulation is darn handy for legacy video.  It's
days
> > are numbered in larger networks.  It's all but extinct in the > OC-12
> > networks, but it's going to be around for a while for smaller networks.
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > -------------------
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> > (217) 557-6555
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:00 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> > >
> > >
> > > quite possibly because the big telecom providers
> > > connect most of their pops/CO's with high speed
> > > atm links...
> > >
> > >
> > > Larry Letterman
> > > Cisco Systems
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Patrick Ramsey
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:25 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> > >
> > >
> > > Cisco support vlan tagging over frame circuits?
> > >
> > > I was looking at a Tierra networks router and it was listed
> > > as one of it
> > > +'s.
> > >
> > > Does Cisco even support this?  This kinda creeps up even
> > > further on the +'s
> > > of atm and how long atm is going to survive.
> > >
> > > Other than being capable of joining elans at oen fac. from
> > > another, can
> > > anyone even think of why atm still exists?  With wdm and all the newer
> > > technology coming around the corner, why is atm still so
> > > saught after for
> > > long distance links?
> > >
> > > -Patrick
> > >
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