A wise person once told me that it takes three things to make a project
possible. It must be technically feasible, politically feasible, and
financially feasible.

The small college in question in this case has no interest in doing anything
except providing the means for students living in dormitories to have POTS
in their rooms  ( no cracks from you dopers! ) They wanted a cheap way to
double the number of POTS phones without having to pull new copper.

So in terms of VoIP proposals, numbers two and three just weren't there. Not
when they can pull copper for 20K and the best I could come up with on the
VoIP side weighed in at around 100K. A full blown AVVID came in at around
175K, and did not include the monthly recurring for some ISDN PRI's for PSTN
connectivity. Not to mention that now the college would have to take
responsibility for billing.

BTW, anyone worked with the VG248 box? I got mixed signals from Cisco about
whether or not this box had to work in conjunction with a Call Manager, or
if it could be used in conjunction with a router, thus providing 48 FXS
ports for router to router VoIP.

Chuck


""Hartnell, George""  wrote in message
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> Interesting, sometimes the obvious can be elusive.  "Pull more copper", is
> the obvious.  Depending upon the telco layout, of course.
>
> But, like many of Chuck's musings, this brings up some more "real world"
> questions.
>
> Given: Investment in analog/digital cu based phone sets at buildings.
>        A score, or more, of PBX's currently on telco copper.
> New fiber to each PBX building for voice and data. (6 strands, sm)
>
> What transport over that fiber would be most cost-effective in the near
> term?
> How about the longer-term?
> Where would convergence fit in the calculations?
>
> Let'see.  Fiber T1 modems are simple, easy.  Pluses.  Minus?  Old
> technology, difficult for data guys to manage well, no convergence factor.
>
> IP transport for telephones over the fiber pair.  Pluses, data guys
> understand IP, ok convergence path.  Bit more costly, currently, though.
>
> True VoIP.  Haven't heard really glowing reports from large scale, lower
> budget, institutions,...yet.  "The" convergence path.  Costly.  Throw out
> yer copper investment(s).
>
> Of course this is not an exhaustive discussion.  Just a number of ways
> 'round the communications barn.
>
> Best, G.
> VP OGC
>
> >
> > Subject: Off Topic - Riddle - "The Obvious Question" [7:38336]
> >
> > Hint - consider the ways one might convert analogue to optic.
> >
> > Chuck




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