Can't you just rate limit on the current routers?

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> This is a case of Load Sharing vs. Load Balancing; very important
> difference!
>
> And unfortunately , this is
> out of your control ... based totally  on BGP hop
> counts.
>
>
>
> On a related note - I would like to drop a question to the group:
> Similar situation; i.e. - we have dual frac-DS3's to two ISP's and we are
> using BGP for basic redundancy/load sharing.  The question now is how
would
> we do bandwidth management in this situation?
>  has signed us up for providing guaranteed bandwidth,
> thank-you-very-much>>.
>
> Specifically - say we have 6 clients, and want to enforce bandwidth cap's
on
> their usage .  The best we have
> come up with is
> 1 add another layer of routers between our Pices  and our border routers
> ... use HSRP groups to
> traffic shape specific clients to specific "middle" routers by default.
> These new "middle routers" would perform the rate-limiting and then
forward
> to the border routers.  The border routers would receive only partial
routes
>  and iBGP would route those accordingly, otherwise default to
> send to default gateway.
> 2 get some third party - Packeteer  and use this for the rate
> limiting / flow control.  Still use iBGP + HSRP groups for "ISP client"
> routing and initial traffic shaping .
>
>
> Any thoughts?  Have we overlooked something; the "automagic command" that
> makes this work cleaner?  Some other  product that is all-encompassing and
> functions as a magic bullet for this ...
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> TJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: BGP Load-Balancing with 2 providers...Possible?? [7:40242]
>
> I'm assuming your getting full routes from each provider.  You will
> most likely get a rough load balance based on the randomness of the
> sites your users are connecting to and your upstreams a roughly equal,
> i.e. 90% of your routes are not learned via provider A.  But your not
> going to get a 50/50 per packet load balance between 2 differant
> poviders nor would you want to.
>
>   Dave
>
> Cisco Nuts wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > Is it possible to load-balance BGP traffic with 2 service providers...I
> know
> > it is possible to load balance with 2 circuits to the same provider
using
> > ebgp-multihop and update-source and cef but with 2 circuits to 2
different
> > providers??
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
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