At 04:45 PM 4/30/02, Michael L. Williams wrote:
>I'm sure I'm missing something and I need to read and learn more about IPv6
>(when's your book coming out? =)...

July. The publisher is slow. The book won't cover IPv6 in detail though. 
Although it might seem like I'm a big proponent of it, I'm not really sure 
it will catch on.

>  however, it seems in an attempt to make
>addressing a convenience (where it doesn't take skill to understand and do
>it),  there will be wasted space......

So? 128 bits is a lot of bits. In fact, there's more waste than you may 
realize.  In a number of the formats, Interface IDs are required to be 64 
bits long and to be constructed in IEEE EUI-64 format. EUI-64 based 
Interface identifiers may have global scope when a global token is 
available (e.g., IEEE 48-bit MAC) or may have local scope where a global 
token is not available (e.g., serial links, tunnel end-points, etc.)

Regarding IPv6 autoconfiguration addresses, I'm no expert. You'll want to 
read the RFCs to answer those questions. But I think your fears about 
summarization are unfounded. RFC 2723 says this: "IPv6 unicast addresses 
are aggregatable with contiguous bit-wise masks similar to IPv4 addresses 
under Class-less Interdomain Routing [CIDR]."

>The only people that want
>"auto-addressing", IMHO, want it out of laziness...

People don't want autoconfiguration because of laziness. They want it 
because sometimes there's no network administrator available and maybe 
there never was one available (to set up a server, for example). Take the 
typical kitchen, laundry room (your washing machine may have a L3 address 
some day), car, space station, hotel lobby, Starbucks, park, real-estate 
office, many other small offices, etc.

You made fun of AppleTalk, but there is an IETF movement afoot to 
standardize user-friendliness, autoconfiguration, and many other AppleTalk 
themes. See the work of the Zero Configuration Networking working group here:

http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/zeroconf-charter.html

Priscilla

>  I mean, technologies
>like DHCP can handle dynamic assignment of addrs from a given scope, so why
>concentrate on fixing something that's not broken.  Why bother wasting time
>with "convenience" of auto-addressing and just fix what's wrong with our
>system now (i.e. it's 32-bit which the 128-bit will fix, and the fact that
>IPs weren't handed out in a way that was condusive to summarization, which
>can be fixed when they start handing out IPv6 addrs)....
>
>Mike W.
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