At 2:24 PM -0400 5/1/02, Jason wrote:
>Howard,
>
>Do you think that the current flattening of the topology will result in
>instability on the internet ?

Yes. A long list of people are publishing data that suggests this.

>Is there current proposal to replace BGP as
>the current EGPs on the internet.

We don't yet have anything to replace it with. The Internet Research 
Task Force (IRTF) has published two drafts of requirement documents, 
written by "Team A" and "Team B". I'm on Team B.

There definitely needs to be full-time research by quite a number of 
people to figure out alternatives.  The discussion may move from the 
IRTF into the IETF, where a temporary area directorate might be 
created to focus attention. This is what was done to create IPv6.

Travel budgets being tight, I'm still hoping to get to the IETF in 
Yokohama this summer, where some decisions about workplan may be 
made.  Right now, there are assorted small teams exchanging ideas.

>
>I don't have the detail, but about one or two years back, you mentioned that
>traffic engineering as it is, on the internet faced difficulties due to
>basic concepts of EGPs, i.e. you cannot control traffics once it leave your
>AS.. how has that change in the last 2 years ? The problem still exists that
>if I cannot be certain where I'm connecting from, I cannot traffic engineer
>since inter-AS co-operations are necessary...
>
>
>""Howard C. Berkowitz""  wrote in message
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>>
>>  Nobody in the IETF or IRTF has proposed one that met any scrutiny.
>>  Geoff Huston has published figures that show the global internet
>>  topology is flattening -- becoming less hierarchical -- apparently
>>  driven by user multihoming. The demand for multihoming seems driven
>>  both by desires for fault tolerance and traffic engineering.
>>  Interesting, there is no significant growth in transit AS, only in
>  > end user AS.




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