It's not in Cisco's best interest to crank out CCIEs and I doubt that's what they're doing (or going to do).... After all, this is a job posting, and I doubt they're going to hire and train enough people to make an impact in the total number of CCIEs out there. (i.e. they may hire 5, 10, hell maybe even 50 people, say, and so you're only taking 5/10/50 more CCIEs on top of the 7400 existing CCIEs ... not enough to impact the overall market/demand for CCIEs, IMHO). I agree with another poster here that, even spending everyday at "work" for Cisco studying isn't enough to get through the new CCIE written, much less the lab.
As far as the devaluing of the CCIE, I've see ramblings of this ever since I joined Groupstudy, and I believe that it's mostly just alot of talk. Sure, CCIEs aren't pulling in as high a salary as they were 2 years ago, but most of that is due to the dot-bomb thing coming to an end as well as the job market/economy of the last year or so. Two things can devalue the cert: The number of CCIEs skyrocketing and/or people being able to attain the CCIE without being qualified. I don't think anyone will argue that the CCIE written/lab combo pretty much keeps "paper CCIEs" from becoming a reality. As far as the number of CCIEs skyrocketing, if I recall correctly, when I first started working on Cisco certification there were around 6000 CCIEs. Now there are around 7400 (worldwide). That's certainly not "skyrocketing". Compare that to MSCEs where there was such a flood of new MSCEs on the market that simply supply/demand took over, and all of a sudden MSCEs were a dime a dozen (no offense to people with MSCEs, just making a point about the numbers). Also, I don't agree with the claim that the CCIEs best days are behind it. Although many felt that the new one-day lab was going to open the floodgates for "paper CCIEs", I don't recall reading any posts by people saying the new lab was a breeze. Also, any of the level of difficulty that may have been lost going to the one-day format is definitely going to be made up for by the new format of the written. As has been posted here more recently (by either Bernard or Dennis right after they took the beta), the failure rate of the written is definitely going to go up with this new exam. Just my 2 cents.... Mike W. "nwo" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > If this is true then it represents an even worse devaluation of the CCIE > than what has happened already. Not only will there be those lab-rat CCIE's > out there with zero experience that are being churned out already, but now > Cisco itself will be pumping out CCIE's with as little as 3 months > experience. This is even more evidence that the cert's best days are > behind it. > > ""Johnzaggat"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Join Cisco and get CCIE in 3-6 months. Must be a typo. > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/jobs/JobAgent?rm=jobdetail&req_id=703608&keywo > > rds=+ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=43321&t=43306 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
