"I think the depth of knowledge on each subject will not be touched by that
required
for CCNP/CCIE..."
Hmmph. I have done the BSCI, but none of the other exams for the CCIP (I
had the option of doing a freebie exam at Networkers, which is the only
reason I did it). The level of routing protocol knowledge required for
BSCI was very shallow, in my opinion. I haven't done the BSCN, either (I
did ACRC a few years ago), so I don't know how the BSCI compares to BSCN,
but the BSCI required *far* less detailed knowledge than the ACRC did.
I hope that the BSCN requires more routing knowledge than the BSCI,
because if not, I reckon the CCNP is going towards a cornflakes cert (or
maybe I just struck the easy BSCI questions).
JMcL
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Subject: Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166]
Is this part of a business decision process?:
"Brian Zeitz" wrote in message
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> It's like they pulled a few
> random topics from the CCIE (and CCNP) and made a cert out of it. I
> don't think many people are buying it.
I agree, but that wouldn't make the certification invalid as such. Take
CCNP for example. Since CCIE was around first, couldn't it be said that
"it
looks like they took topics (routing, switch, remote access,
troubleshooting) and made a cert out of it" (CCNP). And that would be a
(mostly) true statement. But anyone who has done CCNP and at least the
CCIE
written can testify that the depth of knowledge of the CCIE can't touch
any
single CCNP exam. I mean, CCIE written required you to know
OSPF/BGP/EIGRP
but nowhere (IMHO) near the detail as the CCNP Routing exam. Especially
the
switching. The CCIE written should challenge anyone's switching knowledge
that has passed the BCMSN exam......
Having said that, I think (although I'm not personally pursuing it) that
the
CCIP, with it's focus on MCAST, QoS, and MPLS, is going to be a much more
detailed exam track similar to the way CCNP was compared to CCIE. I think
the depth of knowledge on each subject will not be touched by that
required
for CCNP/CCIE (except the Routing CCNP exam, which as pointed out, is
virtually identical to the CCNP routing exam except for IS-IS). I don't
think the little bit of Multicast learned in CCNP switching (which is more
than required for CCIE written, IMHO) would be adequate to pass the MCAST
exam. Etc etc.....
To summarize, I'm personally not going for CCIP, but I could see how
employers in the right environment (i.e. using MPLS, Multicast, etc) might
perfer someone with a deeper background in those topics as opposed to a
CCNP
or even a CCIE......
My 2 cents.....
Mike W.
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