You bring up some very interesting points, I will definitely look into some of your suggestions. I am not comparing them to each other, just wanted to get a general idea of peoples experience with their networks and customer service. We will be providing the loops, we have some very good relationships with local circuit providers, and are looking into either OC3 or OC12 connectivity to one or both. We already use Sprint, UUnet and Internap, but as you stated the financial state of a couple of these providers has us looking for alternatives and I heard that both of these companies provide quality service. Thank you.
*-----Original Message----- *From: dre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:42 PM *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: Re: Opinions on Providers [7:48339] * * *""Lupi, Guy"" wrote in message *[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... *> I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share their *experiences, *good *> or bad, with Cable and Wireless or Genuity. I am thinking *of getting some *> upstream connectivity from them. Thanks in advance. * *Are you comparing them to each other or to somebody else? * *What are you considering buying besides just upstream? By *upstream do you mean IP transit or also local loop connectivity *for the IP transit? C&W doesn't commonly provide local loop *(that would be places like MCI/Worldcom, XO Communications, *Electric Lightwave, Level-3, MFN, maybe Sprint or AT&T), and *Genuity for sure does not. What size of circuits or bandwidth? * *It is becoming more well-known that regular upstream connectivity *(just IP transit services) can be bought cheaper at an neutral exchange *point like Equinix, PAIX, Telehouse, et al than via a strange, unknown, *remote carrier-specific POP. Connecting as a CLEC or via a CLEC *that gets wholesale direct to carriers to these exchange points can be *lucrative to avoid high local loop charges and also maintain a better, *more available, transport network that scales with WDM and "Layer 2 *non-specific" transport unlike regular TDM and SONET services. * *I guess it's really hard to say not knowing what you are trying to *accomplish, *but C&W and Genuity are major Tier 1 ISP's that have excellent customer *service. They are not quite as large as Sprint, but may offer *advantages *over, *say, UUNet (who is owned by MCI/Worldcom) because of their financial *problems (and dim outlook). * *If you currently employ use of Cisco routers and BGP-4, you may be able *to enable NetFlow on your routers to gain a list of top ASN's *(Autonomous *System Numbers of all organizations that run BGP on the *Internet) that you *send traffic to and receive traffic from. I encourage you to *attempt to *look *at these technical factors when making decisions of which provider to *choose. *This may also allow you to augment your traffic decisions in *the future by *peering at said exchange points above or entering programs *where you pay *sub-transit prices for connectivity to some ASes. The *exchange points often *can help if you have a contract with them, but you can also do *a lot of this *work *yourself. * *-dre * * * * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=48350&t=48339 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
