Tom, Thanks for the input about taking the lab. Where did you find 12.1 IOS Docs?. I looked at Cisco Press and other book stores on line, they only have 12.0. Is 12.1 being used in the lab?.
Thanks Reza ""Thomas Larus"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > (I recently failed my first attempt, so weigh my advice accordingly.) > > > The short form is: > > 1)Read obsessively and quickly start doing simple labs > 2) Labs will raise questions, sending you back to the books and IOS docs > 3) Do complex lab scenarios created by other people until you are blue in > the face > > 4) Always strive to nail down things you are unsure of, and nail down every > setting that you are permitted to nail down in you configs (advice from > Caslow in NMC-1 class, which class is highly recommended and worth every > penny). An important motto of the quest for CCIE is "Nail everything down." > > As for time periods, that is impossible for me to set out. Everyone is > different. We all start at different places when we set out for the CCIE. > Some are top network engineers when they start and have less to learn than > someone like me. I have found that this takes much more time than I ever > planned for initially. > > You should read always and everywhere. IOS docs, TAC articles, Cisco Press > Books, McGraw Hill technical expert books, Caslow, Doyle, etc. You start > off by doing labs on individual technologies, such as those provided by > fatkid, ipexpert, and the like, or labbing up the scenarios in Doyle, etc. > When you do these labs, you will have questions, which you send you back to > the books with a keen interest. I think that reading in order to find an > answer or to learn about something that you are dying to learn about leads > to greater absorption than reading straight through a book with the goal of > reading so many pages a day. I know we need to do both kinds of reading, > but I am making the point that doing labs makes your absorption and > compehension of what you read so much deeper. > > You can try to do you own labs, but you may find that you move much faster > through teh material doing labs prepared by someone else. Plus, doing labs > written by others gets you practice interpreting instructions. > > You soon move on to complex lab scenarios. Do lots and lots of these. The > commercial labs will teach you a lot, and are worth spending money on, even > though they may not be perfect. These commercial labs will teach you that > many knowledgeable CCIEs make the same kinds of mistakes that you are scared > to death of making on the CCIE lab. It is frustrating, yet somehow > comforting, to find the glaring errors and omissions in expensive labs > written by CCIEs. The authors will tell you to configure something, and > then completely forget to configure it themselves. (and then continue to > forget to configure it through several revisions of their labs and lab > solutions) You learn from this that it is possible to pass the CCIE even > though you are prone to making almost unforgivably glaring errors when you > have years to do it right. I am a bit absent-minded myself, so that is > comforting. (I simply need an 8-hour "lucid interval" of perfect focus on > getting every detail right and avoiding landmines, while moving through the > tasks at high speed.) > > In short, use lab scenarios early on, and do reading and lab scenarios > concurrently, and read everything. I bought the 12.1 IOS Docs in printed > format, and have really enjoyed reading them. They are loaded with good > stuff. Do NOT buy the old books of IOS docs (I bought a bunch of these, > mainly as half-price closeouts), because out-of-date docs are almost worse > than no docs at all. This IOS has changed a lot from 11.2 or even 12.0 to > 12.1. > > > > ""Jennifer Mellone"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > LESSONS LEARNED, ATTITUDE, AND STRUCTURED STUDY PLAN > > > > I was wondering if anyone could elaborate on "lessons learned" when > studying > > for CCIE. What did you do right? What did you do wrong? If you had to do > it > > all over again, what would you change - especially if someone wants to > pass > > the first time? > > > > I think the attitude "do it right and try and pass the first time" could > be > > helpful (I know it doesn't always happen in reality). It seems more > positive > > than "I'll fail the first time so I know what to expect the second or > third > > or later time". > > > > My instinct tells me that determination and practicing on the routers > every > > night and on weekends for at least 6 months is key, and is easier said > than > > done. There are no short-cuts. This is fine; it's the price one must pay. > > But how does one do that in a methodical and structured manner such that > all > > the major stones are unturned? Of course, some stones will be unturned > > quicker than others due to experience, and others will be slower due to > lack > > of experience/knowledge. I feel "ad hoc" practice could be counter > productive. > > > > For example, a structured approach would be something like: go through > > Caslow's book and do the labs for x-months, and/or do the Fat Kids for > > x-months, and/or do the CCBootcamp labs for x-months, and take the Caslow > > course x-months before the lab, then hammer down on the weaknesses, etc. > > Some comments on this would be great. > > > > I realize this is like Navy Seal training. No amount of conditioning will > > *fully* prepare you for the famous "hell week". As the Seal trainees say, > > "The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday" ;-) > > > > - Jennifer Mellone > > CCNP, FNCNE (Foundry Networks) > > B.S.E.E., M.S. Engineering Management > > a, b, c, d, e ;-) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49385&t=49167 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
