Chuck wrote:
> 
> hhmmmmm........ learn something new every day. thanks.
> 
> that still gets back to how ip unnumbered "really" works, as
> opposed to how
> most of us "think" it works. RFC 1812 specifically talks about
> using the RID
> as the interface address:
> 
> "this memo has adopted an alternate  scheme, which has been
> invented
> multiple times but which is probably   originally attributable
> to Phil Karn.
> In this scheme, a router that  has unnumbered point to point
> lines also has
> a special IP address, called a router-id in this memo.  The
> router-id is one
> of the router's IP addresses (a router is required to have at
> least one IP
> address).  This router-id is used as if it is the IP address of
> all
> unnumbered interfaces."
> 
> whaddaya know - I did recall correctly :->
> 
> so it would appear that in the Cisco implementation, at least,
> for
> unnumbered interfaces, the reference interface ip also becomes
> the RID for
> purposes of unnumbered?
> 
> So what does this discovery do to the proposition that one
> "should" use a
> loopback as the reference for unnumbered interfaces because
> loopbacks are
> "never down"???

Good point Chuck.

Peter, I did not know the meaning of "quote", hehe.
> 
> interesting discussion. learned something new.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ""richard dumoulin""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > No prob, see below.
> >
> >
> >
> > RB#sh run
> > Building configuration...
> >
> > Current configuration:
> > !
> > version 11.2
> > no service password-encryption
> > no service udp-small-servers
> > no service tcp-small-servers
> > !
> > hostname RB
> > !
> > enable password cisco
> > !
> > no ip domain-lookup
> > !
> > interface Ethernet0
> >  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> >  ip unnumbered Ethernet0
> > !
> > interface Serial1
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial2
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial3
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial4
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial5
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial6
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial7
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial8
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial9
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface BRI0
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > no ip classless
> > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial0
> > !
> > line con 0
> > line aux 0
> > line vty 0 4
> >  password cisco
> >  login
> > !
> > end
> >
> > RB#172.16.1.1
> > Trying 172.16.1.1 ... Open
> >
> >
> > User Access Verification
> >
> > Password:
> > RA>en
> > Password:
> > RA#sh run
> > Building configuration...
> >
> > Current configuration : 801 bytes
> > !
> > version 12.2
> > service timestamps debug uptime
> > service timestamps log uptime
> > no service password-encryption
> > !
> > hostname RA
> > !
> > enable password cisco
> > !
> > memory-size iomem 10
> > ip subnet-zero
> > !
> > !
> > no ip domain-lookup
> > !
> > ip ssh time-out 120
> > ip ssh authentication-retries 3
> > !
> > call rsvp-sync
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > interface Ethernet0/0
> >  ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.0.0
> >  no keepalive
> >  half-duplex
> > !
> > interface Serial0/0
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial0/1
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial0/2
> >  ip unnumbered Ethernet0/0
> >  clockrate 2000000
> > !
> > interface Serial0/3
> >  no ip address
> >  shutdown
> > !
> > ip classless
> > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial0/2
> > no ip http server
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > dial-peer cor custom
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > line con 0
> > line aux 0
> > line vty 0 4
> >  password cisco
> >  login
> > line vty 5 15
> >  login
> > !
> > no scheduler allocate
> > end
> >
> > RA#
> > RB#
> > [Resuming connection 1 to 172.16.1.1 ... ]
> >
> > RA#
> > RA#
> > RB#172.16.1.1
> > Trying 172.16.1.1 ... Open
> >
> >
> > User Access Verification
> >
> > Password:
> > RA>en
> > Password:
> > RA#ping 192.168.1.1
> >
> > Type escape sequence to abort.
> > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.1, timeout is 2
> seconds:
> > !!!!!
> > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =
> 4/4/8 ms
> > RA#
> > RB#term mon
> > % Console already monitors
> > RB#
> > %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0,
> changed state
> to
> > down
> > [Resuming connection 2 to 172.16.1.1 ... ]
> >
> > RA#ping 192.168.1.1
> >
> > Type escape sequence to abort.
> > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.1, timeout is 2
> seconds:
> > !!!!!
> > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =
> 4/4/8 ms
> > RA#ping 192.168.1.1
> >
> > Type escape sequence to abort.
> > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.1, timeout is 2
> seconds:
> > !!!!!
> > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =
> 4/5/8 ms
> > RA#
> > RB#conf t
> > Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
> > RB(config)#int e0
> > RB(config-if)#shut
> > RB(config-if)#
> > %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Ethernet0, changed state to
> administratively
> > down^Z
> > RB#d
> > %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by consoleeb ip pa
> det
> > IP packet debugging is on (detailed)
> > RB#
> > [Resuming connection 2 to 172.16.1.1 ... ]
> >
> > RA#
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 40,
> sending
> >     TCP src=11001, dst=23, seq=3044171494, ack=4024004928,
> win=4288 ACK
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 42,
> sending
> >     TCP src=11001, dst=23, seq=3044171494, ack=4024004928,
> win=4288 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 42,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024004928, ack=3044171496,
> win=4058 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 43,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024004930, ack=3044171496,
> win=4058 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 40,
> sending
> >     TCP src=11001, dst=23, seq=3044171496, ack=4024004933,
> win=4283
> ACKping
> > 192.168.1.1
> >
> > Type escape sequence to abort.
> > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.1, timeout is 2
> seconds:
> > !!
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 41,
> sending
> >     TCP src=11001, dst=23, seq=3044171496, ack=4024004933,
> win=4283 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 56,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024004933, ack=3044171497,
> win=4057 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 40,
> sending
> >     TCP src=11001, dst=23, seq=3044171497, ack=4024004949,
> win=4267 ACK
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 42,
> sending
> >     TCP s!!!
> > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =
> 12/16/20 ms
> > RA#rc=11001, dst=23, seq=3044171497, ack=4024004949, win=4267
> ACK PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 42,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024004949, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 142,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024004951, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 42,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024005053, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> rcvd 3
> >     ICMP type=8, code=0
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> sending
> >     ICMP type=0, code=0
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 41,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024005055, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> rcvd 3
> >     ICMP type=8, code=0
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> sending
> >     ICMP type=0, code=0
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 41,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024005056, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> rcvd 3
> >     ICMP type=8, code=0
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> sending
> >     ICMP type=0, code=0
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 40,
> sending
> >     TCP src=11001, dst=23, seq=3044171499, ack=4024005057,
> win=4159 ACK
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 41,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024005057, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> rcvd 3
> >     ICMP type=8, code=0
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> sending
> >     ICMP type=0, code=0
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 41,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024005058, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> rcvd 3
> >     ICMP type=8, code=0
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 100,
> sending
> >     ICMP type=0, code=0
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 41,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024005059, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.1.1 (Serial0), len 118,
> rcvd 3
> >     TCP src=23, dst=11001, seq=4024005060, ack=3044171499,
> win=4055 ACK
> PSH
> > IP: s=192.168.1.1 (local), d=172.16.1.1 (Serial0), len 40,
> sending
> >     TCP src=11001, dst=23, seq=3044171499, ack=4024005138,
> win=4078 ACK
> 
> 




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