One of my resellers told me he could get me a 2950-24 for a little over $900. i know the vh's with maintenance run us about $1100. thanks again for the input
-----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Reed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/27/02 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Cabletron vs Cisco Switches [7:49812] If you are swaying toward Cisco for any other reason, you can probably purchase the 2950-24's (without uplinks) as cheap as the VH2402SM and start working on your Cisco switching skill sets. I don't like the VH's very much either, but they are cheap. To make them run reasonably well, make sure you have the 2.05.00 firmware. In the Bridge Extension under VLAN learning, make sure you are running in IVL mode. SVL is evil and causes unpredictable results. Changing from SVL to IVL requires a reboot. Also make sure you enable IGMP on your VH's 2200's and 6000 to ensure the multicast traffic isn't broadcast everywhere. This setting is off by default on all your Cabletron products. Once you get all that set, they should behave pretty well. I've seen some weird spanning tree problems in poorly designed networks, but that may be getting better with the latest firmware. If you're looking for some good, inexpensive switches, check out the HP Procurves. I've had good results with them and they are a little less than the VH's. Good Luck!! Jeffrey Reed Classic Networking, Inc. Cell 717-805-5536 Office 717-737-8586 FAX 717-737-0290 -----Original Message----- From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:09 PM To: 'Jeffrey Reed '; Wright, Jeremy; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: RE: Cabletron vs Cisco Switches [7:49812] I appreciate the response. Basicallly we buy the vh2402 for workgroup access layer connections. we use no stacking (i heard if you stack 7 vh2402's it takes 18 minutes to boot up..geeze!) or fiber/gig uplinks. we usually have the 2402's uplinked (over copper) to a 2h252 thats linked to our 6000 core. i wanted to get a feel for if im only needing access ports with no gig/fiber modules, would the 2950 be a better fit. i think it is based on some of the specs ive read and the experience ive had with the 2402's. i also heard that enterasys is looking at purchasing a different brand of 24-48 port work groups switches because the 2402's suck and havent had much luck. i personally hate them and would prefer to use cisco. thanks again for your input. -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Reed To: Wright, Jeremy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/26/02 8:54 PM Subject: RE: Cabletron vs Cisco Switches [7:49812] I think they are not in the same class of switches, so a direct comparison is tough. Here's some thoughts... - The 2950 is newer, therefore newer ASICs. The VH-2402, aka ELS100 has been around for about three years. -The VH is mostly ASIC based where the firmware is only 500k in size. The 2950's firmware image is over 4M. With a larger firmware base, I have to believe the 2950 will have the ability to change more drastically over time. I think the VH could be very close to end of life. - The 2950 is not very flexible when it comes to HW versions. If you want cheap, the lower cost model has 24 10/100 ports and no uplink or stacking capability. If you want 100M fiber, you have to buy the 2950C which has no GIG or stacking. If you want stacking, you have to move to the 2950G which has a list of twice the one without the GBICs. On the VH's, you have one common piece of HW and you purchase the uplinks, stacks etc. as you need them. - I think Cisco designed the 2950 internally while the VH was designed in Taiwan, not internally at Cabletron. Check out the Tiger Switches from SMC and you'll see very familiar HW at lower prices. If you have specific questions, let me know. I've sold hundreds of the VH's and a few dozen of the 2950's. Jeffrey Reed Classic Networking, Inc. Cell 717-805-5536 Office 717-737-8586 FAX 717-737-0290 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wright, Jeremy Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cabletron vs Cisco Switches [7:49812] We are primarily a Cabletron shop. We have a lot of vh2402's and I wanted to see if there was someone on the list that had both the vh2402's and the catalyst 2950-24's. I've read the specs on both of them but I wanted to hear the real world comparison. TIA. ************************ Jeremy Wright Network Analyst Archer Daniels Midland [EMAIL PROTECTED] (217)451-4063 ************************ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49904&t=49812 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
