My point about the VPN concentrator was in a different email. I was
mentioning the VPN concentrator for those taking the CSVPN test for the
CSS1. Maybe I should have changed the heading, to make it politically
correct. I am sure people going for the VPN test will appreciate this if
they see it on their exam. I was trying to get this conversation back on
what we are all here for, Cisco related products.

Your point about analyzing user requirements is mute. There was not
enough detail to perform an evaluation. That would be the answer to this
question. I was just taking a shot in the dark, just like everyone else.
This would be a bad example to see if someone could analyze network
requirements. If it was a credible question, this would apply.

-----Original Message-----
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco PIX & Novell [7:51303]

Brian Zeitz wrote:
> 
> He may need to encapsulate the IPX into TCP/IP. Cisco only
> supports IP
> on the VPN3000 concentrator. Maybe a good test question for us
> taking
> the CSS1 exams. The VPN 5000 will support IPX.
> 
> 

It might be a good design question to see if the test-taker can analyze
user
requirements.

He didn't say anything about having a VPN concentrator. In fact, he's
not
trying to do a VPN, I don't think. He's just trying to get ordinary
client/server traffic to work through the PIX 525. Also, he's using IP,
not
IPX.

On the other hand, I have to somewhat agree with some of your other
message
about NetWare being overly complex and requiring too much tinkering to
get
it working.

I tried to find an answer to the actual question on the Novell Web site
and
the servers were excruciatingly slow to start with and there was nothing
useful on the particular question (of getting NetWare client to talk to
NetWare 5.1 server with IP as the preferred method across a PIX
firewall).

The original poster said that the client talks to a Directory Agent (DA)
first. This implies that Service Location Protocol (SLP) is in use, but
that
multicasts are not required for finding services. A DA minimizes the
requirement for multicasts. SLP user and service agents can find the DA
via
multicast, (if they don't hear from it first), but once they do find the
DA,
they can send unicasts directly to the DA. It sounds like the client is
finding the DA fine and the DA is giving the client a server to use, but
then the failure occurs.

Is there a way for him to avoid SLP and specify the actual server? Can't
he
just do this with an IP address (or name assuming DNS is working?)

I noticed that Chuck Church is back. (Yeah!) Maybe he can help? :-)

Thanks

Priscilla




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