they dont query both hosts.. thats why v2 is backwards compatible.  the
igmp querier is 'switched off' when a v1 router is detected.


hth,
Mark.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard dumoulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2002 01:29
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Multicast DR and IGMP querier [7:51458]
> 
> 
> Here it is !!   That was my confusion, because it seems that 
> this capability
> was added in order to query IGMP version 1 hosts. With IGMP 
> version 2 it
> seems you do not need it. But what happen then if you have 
> both IGMP v2 and
> PIM DR's ?? Do they both query the hosts ?
> 
> Any Multicast expert right there ?
> 
> Regards.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Yu" 
> To: "richard dumoulin" ; 
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Multicast DR and IGMP querier [7:51458]
> 
> 
> > Do you mean that in IOS if a router is running PIM and is  
> a DR, it will
> > query even if it sees IGMP query messages from another 
> router with lower
> ip
> > address?
> >
> > Kent
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "richard dumoulin" 
> > To: "Kent Yu" ; 
> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: Multicast DR and IGMP querier [7:51458]
> >
> >
> > > RFC's are great, but have to look also at how Cisco IOS 
> implements the
> > rfc.
> > > PIM DR's use IGMP to query the hosts too !!
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kent Yu" 
> > > To: "richard dumoulin" ; 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Multicast DR and IGMP querier [7:51458]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > As we mentioned yesterday, only routers speak PIM, I am 
> not sure where
> > you
> > > > got the impression that PIM DRs query the hosts, 
> routers only use IGMP
> > to
> > > > query the hosts.
> > > >
> > > > I think as many have suggested, nothing is better than 
> reading the
> > specs,
> > > in
> > > > this case, RFC 2117 should explain this pretty well.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > > Kent
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "richard dumoulin" 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:47 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Multicast DR and IGMP querier [7:51458]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Raj Santiago wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Richard,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay your question is basically what is a "IGMP querier and
> > > > > > Multicast Designated Router"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Igmp querier is the router in charge to see if any 
> hosts want
> > > > > > to listen to a multicast stream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Designated Router is the router is charge to facilitate pim
> > > > > > join, prune  and register messages(This also depends on the
> > > > > > mode of pim your running, im being very abstract here);
> > > > > > Basically the multicast routing part.
> > > > >
> > > > > But it seems to me that the DR will also query the hosts!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Under IGMP version 1, the router with the highest ip address
> > > > > > was BOTH the IGMP querier and Designated Router.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Under IGMP version 2, the router with highest ip 
> address is the
> > > > > > DR and the router with the lowest ip address is the 
> IGMP querier.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I am right, both the DR and the querier will query 
> the hosts ??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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