""Ken Diliberto""  wrote in message
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> Here's the fun part with these connectors:
>
> For this "fun" to work, you need the following:
>
> [SWITCH]--[Balun1]--[Token-ring wire]--[Balun2]--[Device/PC]
>
> Everything runs normal until yon knock (or should it be spelled NOC ;-)
> ) Balun2 off the wall.  At this point, the IDC (or UDC if you're from
> IBM) shorts the transmit and receive pairs together.  The network all of
> a sudden comes to its knees.  Why?  BPDUs go out the Balun interface
> saying they have MAC addresses off other ports.  When the packets hit
> the wire where Balun2 use to be, it returns back to the switch, making
> the switch think all the MAC addresses have moved to that port.  Now the
> switch is confused and tries figuring out where everything is but the
> process continues.
>
> This actually happened to me as we converted a network from Token Ring
> to Ethernet.  It was cheaper for us to purchase a bunch of baluns
> compared to pulling new wire (we wanted to pull new wire but the money
> wasn't there).
>
> Way too much fun.
>
> Ken
>
> Note:  Some people call them a balun and others a balum.  I don't care.
>  You decide.  :-)


CL; BALanced-UN-balanced = BALUN

CL: this gets into the "nucular" versus "nuclear" argument. or is it the
"SUPERfluous" versus "suPERfluous" argument? :->


>
> >>> "Ken Chipps"  09/22/02 01:28PM >>>
> As I recall from the old days of using Token Ring there was some reason
> you
> could not just make these. You have to buy them already made. Something
> to
> do with the circuitry. I can look in my Token Ring stuff, after I blow
> off
> the dust, if anyone really wants to know. Assuming I am remembering
> this
> right. I searched google using media filter token ring. A bunch of
> sites
> that sell these pop up. Just buy one. They are around 20 each US.
>
> ""Chuck's Long Road""  wrote in message
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> > so far as I know, the connector is not "really" a db9. It is a token
> ring
> > media filter
> >
> > Reading the unit I use, on the "db9" side, TX is on wires 5 and 9,
> while
> RX
> > is on wires 1 and 6.
> >
> > On the "rj45" side, TX is indicated as wires 3 and 6, while RX is
> using
> > wires 4 and 5.
> >
> > What happens between the RJ side and the DB side, I do not know.
> >
> > --
> >
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> > take the survey!
> >
> >
> >
> > ""hall annie""  wrote in message
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> > > Okay, I give up.  I can't seem to get this to work.  I've tried
> various
> > > adapters (self-done) and I'm stuck.  I have a 2502 and I don't have
> the
> > > rj-45 to db9 adapter, and I need to fabricate one.  Does anyone
> know the
> > > pinout colors that will work with a Cisco 2502?
> > >
> > > I thought it was 1-red 5-black 6-green 9 -orange (on the db9 to
> rj45
> > > adapter), but lately I've been thinking it might be:
> 1-green,5-black,
> > 6-red,
> > > 9-orange....
> > >
> > > Or perhaps I've got a bad db9 port on my 2502?  I have a known good
> rj45
> > > token ring mau/lam.  It works when it connects to
> servers/workstations
> > that
> > > have rj-45 ports on their token ring cards, but not with my
> "home-made"
> > > rj-45 adapter for my Cisco router.
> > >
> > > Can anyone assist?  Thanks in advance.....




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