Trying to finish the discussion I would say: I believe that the core of discussion should be: some people are much more intersted to get the certification instead to learn to get experience and increase the skills.
They went to a "bootcamp" pay $7000 to get CCNP in 11 days or 11000 for CCIE in 15 days.Do believe that they can learn enough to be a CCIE in 15 days? I don't think so. It's sad. There was(fortunatily) a "bootcamp" CCNP guy on my team that uses a web browser to check DNS resolution. He doesn't know about "nslookup" and have no idea how to configure OSPF,BGP,Frame Relay,etc. I hope that some day Cisco implements a new exam methodology to check the real candidate knowledge. But is geting better the exams 640-603, 605 and 606 are much better than prior 640-50x. But I hope that Cisco do the same to 350-001. I have implemented a pre-selection test on my company to prevent against the "certification guys" . Dante -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeroen Timmer Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written "revised" [7:53972] Euhhh.... Weird stuff ... Ain't the wife glad that you are trying to learn stuff to get a better payed job or that you feel better yourself by learning new stuff that makes you more confident ?? I sure know my girlfriend won't go on a shoppingspree :) She would only be sad that i didn't make it. JT -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Theodore Stout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 25 september 2002 10:33 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: RE: CCIE written "revised" [7:53972] OUCH!!!!!! "Larkin, Richard" 09/25/2002 04:04 PM ZE8 To: 'Theodore Stout' , [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: bcc: Subject: RE: CCIE written "revised" [7:53972] Yeah I hear you brother. Our company reimburses successful tests and I've just bombed MPLS twice. Every time I bomb, the wife gets to go on a shopping spree worth $AUD190 to balance the equation. Certainly the best incentive to pass I ever had! Rik -----Original Message----- From: Theodore Stout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2002 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE written "revised" [7:53972] Larry, I have the same situation. She doesn't like that I have to shell out the money first even though I get re-imbursed. She thinks my money is HER money and has nothing to do with the company. I just passed MCSE/SD and even though it was free, I felt her pain. Should do the CCIE Sec lab sometime in the Winter 03 but I won't say anything to her out of fear.... :-) Any one else out there have test fee and spouse problems? Theo "Larry Letterman" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/25/2002 06:47 AM GMT Please respond to "Larry Letterman" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: bcc: Subject: Re: CCIE written "revised" [7:53972] if the employer re-imburses you, whats the issue with your wife? Tim Medley wrote: >So is that how people without experience do it? Just keep failing the ccie >written exam until you've memorized all the questions or get lucky? > >You must be single, or rich, or both. My wife has a fit when I spent $125 on >a exam I am well prepared for, let alone spend $300 on the written. And my >employer reimburses for the exam. > >I guess now I know why my employer will only pay for an exam twice. > >Try picking up a book and learning something, then you could pass the exam >on the first try. > > > >Tim Medley, CCNP+Voice, CCDP, CWNA >Sr. Network Architect >VoIP Group >iReadyWorld > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Julio Godinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:04 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: CCIE written "revised" [7:53972] > > >Passing score 105: First attempt 77, Second attemp (yesterday) 95.... >=( FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list /cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=54072&t=53972 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
