""Thomas Larus""  wrote in message
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> I think some people tend to be intimidated by ATM more than by frame relay
> because it is more expensive to get into a home lab and most of us are
less
> likely to have a job configuring ATM on a regular basis than configuring
> frame relay on a regular basis.
>
> Yes, I know you can get ATM in your lab with 7000s and a non-Cisco switch
at
> an almost-reasonable price, but it's still a bit much too much money, bulk
> and noise and power consumption.


CL: that's one of the downsides of my job. I'm selling a lot more ATM
related things, and generally I am responsible for writing the
configurations. I have no way of mocking up customer ATM networks in my own
lab, so I have to rely on the basics of frame relay. well, now I know enough
QoS stuff to be dangerous. ;->



>
> Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
>
> ""Daren Presbitero""  wrote in message
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> > Chuck,
> >
> > I agree with you.  I worked for FORE Systems doing nothing but ATM to
the
> > desktop for 4 years before moving to a company with all cisco.  Not much
> > harder to understand, as long as you understand basic networking
> > fundamentals and the fact that these are just 2 different technologies
> that
> > have their place in the network.
> >
> > Daren
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Chuck's Long Road
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Extended Vlan across Wan [7:54866]
> >
> >
> > This thread brings to mind a question I've had for a while.
> >
> > It appears sometimes that a lot of people think ATM is difficult to
> > understand, implement, support.
> >
> > Why is it that?
> >
> > My ( albeit limited ) exposure to ATM from the customer side is that ATM
> is
> > basically every bit as easy to set up and run on your typical WAN as fra
me
> > relay. Yes there are some additional bells and whistles which can become
> > complex as you do more complex things. And obviously, complex corporate
> > networks might make use of a lot more ATM specific features.
> >
> > But in general, you set up the PVC's, configure the IP address ( or
enable
> > bridging ) and do everything else pretty much the same was as you do
with
> > frame relay.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > --
> >
> > TANSTAAFL
> > "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
> >
> >
> > ""M.C. van den Bovenkamp""  wrote in message
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> > > Daren Presbitero wrote:
> > >
> > > > Couldn't you bridge the VLAN's into an ATM 1483 bridged PVC, point
to
> > > > point across the WAN at both ends?
> > >
> > > That's how I did it when I had the need.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Marco.




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