set one end to 100 half and the other to 100 full and see what happens....:)

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

>Larry Letterman wrote:
>
>>Most likely the previous 10/half interface on the switch and
>>the router
>>were not
>>linked at the same speed/duplex or the other router had an
>>issue with
>>the setting.
>>
>
>No, the switch and router were set to the same thing, which was 10 Mbps half
>duplex, if you read his messages. He was using a 2500 router. Those routers
>predate the full duplex standard. In fact they may predate 100 Mbps also. He
>had no choice but to upgrade the router, which he did.
>
>He was seeing lots of collisions, including excessive collisions where the
>frame got dropped because even after 15 retries it encountered a collision.
>
>Collisions are normal in shared (half-duplex) Ehternet, but excessive
>collisions are not. Collisions are caused by the stations on the shared link
>simultaneously sending. Excessive collisions are due to a shortage of
>capacity. One fix to the problem is to increase the capacity. By jumping
>10-fold from 10 Mbps to 100 Mbps, the risk of collisions, especially
>excessive collisions, goes way down. Since each frame takes 1/10th the
>amount of time to send, the odds that some other station is sending when
>another station transmits (or retransmits) go way down.
>
>Increasing capacity used to be the only way we could upgrade an Ethernet
>network. Then the full-duplex standard came about. It can only be used on a
>point-to-point link where each side has its own dedicated transmit path. In
>other words, it's no longer shared Ethernet. There's no need to sense
>carrier to see if anyone else is sending, because there isn't anyone else.
>It's not multiple access. Receiving while you're sening is legitimate, so
>there's no need to check for collisions. It's no longer CSMA/CD. Of course
>the collision rate goes down. Collisions really have no meaning in this
>environment. If there are collisions, then there's probably a duplex
mismatch.
>
>So, anyway, he improved matters in two ways: upgrading the capacity and
>moving to full duplex.
>
>I just wanted to add this theory discussion. It's not right to say (as
>someone else did) that collisions are "caused by" a half-duplex setting.
>Collisions are caused by two stations sending at once, which tends to happen
>more and more frequently when there's not enough  capacity to support the
>sending behavior of the nodes on the shared network. To fix the problem, you
>can increase capacity or you can make the network not shared by connecting
>just two devices and using full duplex.
>
>_______________________________
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
>www.priscilla.com
>
>>To be safe I would set the switch port and the router interface
>>to
>>100/full or 10/full
>>and there should be no issues then.
>>
>>and yes, the fast ethernet in the 26XX/36XX routers are a
>>better
>>solution.....
>>
>>Larry Letterman
>>Cisco IT-LAN , San Jose
>>
>>Cliff Cliff wrote:
>>
>>>Today, We are put 3660 router to their end, having
>>>
>>Fastethernet card, and
>>
>>>connected to their switch.
>>>
>>>They change their switch port as following:
>>>
>>>interface FastEthernet0/14 
>>>load-interval 30 
>>>duplex full
>>>
>>>so far, after observe serveral hours, there is no collision as
>>>
>>well as not
>>
>>>error message in our router.
>>>
>>>So, what's wrong? Is the fastethernet is better? or previous
>>>
>>setting that I
>>
>>>have is wrong?




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