maybe we can get nfr to weigh in here, and this thread can perpetuate itself at least as long as the Cert versus Degree thread :->
""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The Long and Winding Road wrote: > > > > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in > >> > > > > > Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are very smart people, but when > > they champion > > > software that thinks it's smarter than the user, most users > > just get > > > annoyed. ;-) > > > > > > I disagree with your implication here. > > You didn't understand my implication. > > > The whole point of the > > PC revolution > > was to make computing easy for the end user. I think apple and > > eventually > > mircrosoft have done wonderful things in that respect. > > I'm not talking about computers being easy to use; I'm talking about > artificial intelligence and expert systems. I'm talking about spam filters > that learn what you consider spam, for example. Both Mac OS and Microsoft > have a lot of this type of software built into their operating systems and > applications. In some cases it works well. For example, I think the > Microsoft Word spell checker is a beautiful piece of software unparalleled > by any other spell checker I've used. What makes it superior is that it > learns about the current user. But I think Internet Explorer deciding that > it should hijack your ability to play video or music is awful. It decides to > do things on its own, sometimes without user input. That's not a great > example, but if I gave it more thought I could come up with lots of cases > where Microsoft (and Apple) software does things behind your back, in some > cases because expert-system-type software is making decisions without your > input. > > Sorry that this is way O/T and even off-topic from what we were discussing > and not really related to the off-topic point you are trying to make about > unintended consequences. :-) > > Priscilla > > > > however, > > as with > > anything else, the law of unintended consequences comes into > > play. they made > > it easy for businesses to develope templates to make employees > > more > > effective in their work. the unintended consequence is they > > made it easy for > > malicious people to use those tools to create maco viruses. > > they made it > > easy for you and I to send dfocumnets or pictures to our > > friends and > > relatives, and for those people to pen the docs and see the > > content. the > > unintended consequence is that they made it easy for malicious > > people to > > spread their wickedness. > > > > to bring this back into the Cisco realm, Cisco NBAR ( network > > based > > application recognition ) I believe was intended to provide > > another > > dimension to the QoS classification process. now it can also be > > used as a > > filter against certain virus / macro virus attacks. > > > > > > > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > > > > Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > > > > > > > > At 6:09 PM +0000 1/3/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > >Hopefully you trained her not to open attachemnts in the > > > > future unless she > > > > >knows the sender and is expecting an attachment from that > > > > sender. It's an > > > > >obvious point, but nobody had brought it up yet! :-) > > > > > > > > > >Priscilla > > > > > > > > May all such attackers get a personalized virus. There's a > > > > wide > > > > range of choices of gastrointestinal ones. Somehow, such > > > > people > > > > remind me of a baby's alimentary tract: a loud voice at one > > end > > > > and > > > > no sense of responsibility at the other. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60249&t=60114 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]